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Old 01-22-2008, 05:42 PM   #1
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SVT Pads on track

Hey guys, there is an open track day coming up in about 2 months and I was wondering if anyone had tracked their focus with the stock pads. The event is at PMP which is at 4900 ft above sea level, which makes me worry about brake cooling somewhat, also the humidity tends to be very low at PMP maybe 15-50% at the max. If anyone has tracked their car in Colorado on the stock brakes, or any brake setup for that matter, let me know.


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Change your brake fluid but other than that the SVT brakes and pads are very good so you probably wouldn't have to worry about too much.
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Check with WeeAsp as he tracks his stock SVT quite a bit. The one stock part I know he "doesn't" use are the brake pads. Aftermarket pads are also a necessity in this case. You may be able to get by with something like Hawk HPS's which are very streetable and will hold up under moderate use on the track. The next step up would be Hawk HP. These are better on the track but not a full race pad and not quite as good for the street (need a little warming for a good initial bite). Porterfield R4s is another decent street/performance pad but it tends to cost a little more.

I second the above comment. Definitely bleed the system and replace it with a fresh high temp fluid. This should be done before any track session. It need be nothing fancy or expensive. Valvoline make a good all around synthetic fluid that you can get almost anywhere. Wilwood and ATE make some cheaper race specific fluids if you want to go that way.
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Thanks Guys, I had been looking at porterfield RS4's at some point in the near future (I've had the stock pads last for 50,000 miles now, with some life left), any recommendations on where to get the pads or fluid?
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Porterfields web site is a good start. Valvoline fluid is as close as your closest Walmart or major auto parts store. I've seen some race fluids at Autozone and PEP boys on occasion.
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Sounds good, how much fluid does the brake system take, and would it be worth paying for ATE Super Blue fluid?
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Sounds good, how much fluid does the brake system take, and would it be worth paying for ATE Super Blue fluid?

I have done a complete bleed with as little as 8 oz. A 12 oz. bottle should do it. ATE, if I remember correctly, only comes in a one liter can that costs about 12 to 15 bucks. Valvoline synpower costs about three bucks or thereabouts. Brake fluids do not have very long shelf lives after they are opened. Buying it by the liter is good if your racing and changing your fluid numerous times over a weekend. It's not good if its going to sit on a shelf for months.
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Also remember, change your rotors when you change pads. When you bed-in the pads, they deposit some of the pad material on the rotor, and you don't want to mix rotors between pad manufacturers.

I ran Hawk HP Pluses all around on my first track day, and have since switched to Hawk HT-10s up front.
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I did 2 days at Miller Motorsports Park on stock pads/rotors.
The only thing I did, was to flush the system, and top it up with fresh DOT 4 before attending the event.
Other than that, the "factory" parts worked flawlessly.

I do however have Hawk HPS now...
Not that the stock pads were bad, but once they were worn out, I opted to upgrade a bit.
The HPS have great initial bite, but I can't relate to fade, as I haven't been back on a road course since, only AutoCross.

Make sure when you pull off the track to NOT hold your foot for any extended period of time on the brake pedal!
Coast into your "pit" so to speak, and use wheel chocks if necessary to hold the vehicle in place.
Don't stand on the brakes till they cool back off, and DON'T use the e-brake.
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It really depends on how aggressive you are and what kind of tires. For street tires the stock svt pads are OK. OK means they will work and not be destroyed like most street pads. If you want a step up in performance then look at carbotech. I feel they have the best performance for the buck and won't destroy your rims. You can also run them for 3 seasons (winter too if needed), even the race pads.
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