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Old 03-14-2005, 10:33 AM   #1
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Just picked up a new 2004 Focus SVT with 31 miles on it and am having a ball. My question is about voiding the warranty with mods. The dealership said ANY modification could void the warranty. I have seen many posts with mods on cars with only 12k miles so was wondering what any of you have run into. Thanks for any help.


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Old 03-14-2005, 10:47 AM   #2
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Only if the part you put on directly caused something to break or go wrong. So you can put on just about any bolt on beside forced induction.
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Old 03-14-2005, 10:51 AM   #3
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Thanks Andrew,
Been thinking of a CAI and tuner for starters. Does a vented hood help with a CAI? I would think cooler air coming straight into the CAI would help. What about rain and water getting ingested into the intake? Any thoughts or problems anyone experienced?
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Welcome! As stated above, they have to prove the mod created the problem. I have a AEM CAI, Ford Racing UDP (underdrive pulley), Ford Racing STS (short throw shifter) and Prothane Inserts in my lower tranny mount and I have had no problems getting service at my Dealer what-so-ever but I think you will find it greatly depends on what dealer you take it to, just make sure the dealer is SVT certified.
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Thanks jaykirs,
Just wanted to see if anyone had run into problems with the warranty before going shopping. I read the posts on UDP's and might add one to the basket also. I want to try Autocrossing in OKC Mar 26 so will keep it stock and see how she handles, then try it in April with the mods. Am trying to get my wife involved in the autocrossing so I won't take so much grief when I buy parts.
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, like others have said, unless they can prove the mods are the direct cause of the problem, then they will still warranty it, had mine in twice with my CAI on it. And about a vented hood helping a CAI, it wouldnt matter cause the CAI puts the filter out of the engine bay and closer to the ground. With a short ram intake it may alittle.
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Welcome, as others have stated, they can't just deny warranty on your car just because you have CAI or UDP's (make sure you read about the issues with these) or other basic bolt-ons. The tune however is another story. Since you are changing the basic parameters of the engine, they won't have any trouble denying warranty with a tuned car. That being said...you can flash it back to stock and they won't even know.

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Thanks SVTmonkey, I had thought about reflashing the stock tune whenever I had to get it serviced. From what I have read that seems the best route, but I didnt want to have to disassemble everything back to stock every time I went to the dealer. Sounds like that won't be an issue. I really like this site, tons of good info. I built my own computer reading forums like this, and have some experiance with 4 cyl engines (rebuilt an 86 nissan Z24 for my pickup) so the add-ons for the SVT are extreemly appealing. Just gotta get household six (wife) on board :)
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Old 03-14-2005, 04:38 PM   #9
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Since you are changing the basic parameters of the engine, they won't have any trouble denying warranty with a tuned car. That being said...you can flash it back to stock and they won't even know.

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That is not true from what I have heard. Do you have solid proof that they can not tell how many times the car has been flashed or when? From what I have heard, if the dealer really wants to see if you have been messing with the flash, they can easily find out so be careful.

Also, I hate to be the nay-sayer here but magnusson-moss doesn't mean diddly if you don't have the bank to fight Ford in court when they void your powertrain warranty for an underdrive pulley or CAI. It is easy to prove any modification that adds power causes undue duress to almost anything but your stereo and power windows, lol.

Guess who will run out of money first if you take Ford to court over it. The attitude should be you gotta pay to play and, if you mod the car, you take the risk of having to fix it yourself when Ford denies coverage. I don't think it is that big of a deal for minor things that go wrong with the cars but if you have an expensive repair and they call in SVT to inspect, you better believe any mods you have on the car will result in denied coverage and there is nothing the dealer can do about it.

The best course of action is to talk with the service advisor about mods before you put them on and for sure before you take the car in for service. If the SA is cool with it, you are probably in good shape, assuming it is not a high dollar repair that requires an inspection before Ford will pay for it. The 2003/2004 Cobra and lightning guys have been getting screwed out of head replacements and other warranty work for the last two years for simple things like CAI and excessive rubber in the wheel wells so be careful.
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WELCOME!!! If you have any questions regarding the SCT Flash tuners or other hard parts, let me know, I will be happy to be of assistance.

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Sorry to say sir, but, the tech CAN look to see if it has been flashed, but can only see when the last time it was flashed, not how many times. And besides, they dont look at that unless there is a SERIOUS drivetrain failure.
On the Magnusson-Moss Act, thats why there are people like SEMA and other organizations out there to back up the little guy and help out when BIG BANKROLLED FORD, or other manufacturers decides to fight.
I know of quite a few cases when SEMA got involved and the case was settled quietly and without the vehicle owner having to shell out a dime.
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