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swansong 07-02-2013 11:56 AM

Possible to wrap header without removing it?
I'd like to wrap the header, as I've got the materials to do it and no heat shield installed. But, long story short, the header will not come out of the engine bay anytime soon (rusted and corroded bolts).

Has anyone wrapped their header without removing it? It looks like it should be doable, but won't be easy or pain-free.

iminhell 07-02-2013 07:59 PM

W/O removing the fans, it's going to be a real PITA. I wouldn't even attempt it.

Call Steve and see what he wants for a brand new header. IIRC mine was under $200.

Also don't let the rust scare you. Sometimes working on a hot engine will aid in removing them. Ware good gloves so you don't melt skin. The 3 on the cat, just cut them and buy new, or tighten until they give up.

macdiesel 07-02-2013 08:19 PM

Does ford even make the svt header anymore? I would at least try to remove fans and loosen bolts to get header out. I can't see doing a good job wrapping while in vehicle due to the tight space to wrap.

swansong 07-02-2013 08:37 PM

Removing the fans is a good idea, but yeah I agree it's going to be difficult/impossible to do a good job while it's in there. I don't think I'd be able to get leverage to pull it tight in each turn.

Ford still makes the header IIRC, and it's easy to find a used one on the forums. But, here's why I say the existing header isn't coming out soon:

The bolt in the top picture is totally rounded off from my previous attempts to remove it. There's no room to get a cutting wheel in there either.

iminhell 07-02-2013 08:44 PM

Can save your ass. Has mine a few times. And like I said, heat is your friend here.
Also, don't use 12pt sockets.

swansong 07-02-2013 08:59 PM

I always use 6pt sockets, and I did buy and use the Irwin bolt extractors, but I think the bolt was too far gone by the time I used them, since they just rounded they bolt off even further. Problem is there's no room to really smack the extractor on there.

In retrospect, PB Blaster + heat + bolt extractor + big breaker bar would have been the best way to start.

iminhell 07-02-2013 10:32 PM

I won't use PB any longer.
Buddy introduced me to the Motorcraft penetrating oil. He did the test that sold him on it for me, I'm sold too. I haven't looked up the MSDS, but I'd guess it's made of black magic and Mike Tyson urine.

macdiesel 07-03-2013 06:24 AM

Can you buy motorcraft penetrating oil at chain parts stores? Are you opposed to the oem heatsheild? Or do you just wantbit wrapped? I'd just put the oem shield back on if its an option.

swansong 07-03-2013 06:43 AM

I've heard good things about that penetrating oil as well, can't seem to find it anywhere though.

OEM heatshield would be ok, except that it's expensive new, hard to find used, and will also be difficult/impossible to install without removing the heater. Getting the old one out was a bear in itself, even with cutting it up and bending it in every direction. Might be easier with the fans out of the way though.

I might just leave the header unshielded/unwrapped... been that way for over 6 months now with no real issues, but it's not the ideal situation.

macdiesel 07-03-2013 07:10 AM

I put mine back on, took the fans out from under neath and the shield went on with minimal persuasion.

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