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Old 10-10-2004, 01:31 PM   #1
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Off road pipe questions

http://www.newedgeperformance.com/in...ProdID=80&HS=1 I was curious to see if any of you have bought and installed this product on the SVT. And if so what did you think about the performance benefits and the downsides. I live in michigan so I dont have to worry about the emissions laws getting me if I take out the cat. And I was also wondering if this product will void my warrenty. Thanks


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Don't do it!!! It is horribly irresponsible and ignorant...when you take off your CAT you pollute the equivalent of about 20-25 vehicles. Besides the fact that it is unnecessary.

Downsides....just the other day, someone posted that a police officer spotted their ORP and after legal fees etc....it ended up costing them over $8000. And YES, this applies EVERYWHERE in America....under the federal clean air act...$2500 fine for tampering.

Under the same act, the dealer can legally void your warranty under the claim that you did not maintain your vehicle...plus you mess with a lot of complex tuning in the vehicle...Air/fuel ratios etc...so yes, your warranty can be denied.

The main point, is that there is absolutely no reason to be so shortsighted and ignorant. The minor gains you get from this mod don't justify the amount of pollution you spill...they put these things there for a reason. Be responsible!
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Old 10-10-2004, 01:40 PM   #3
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I bought one from New Edge, Tony D is the man! On to the ORP itself. Awesome product, well constructed, easy to install / remove. Gains are beyond expectation-acceleration is much improved throughout the entire RPM range. The downside that I had is all a matter of opinion: Exhaust fumes / smell, I roll with the windows down and found the smell to be a little too much. I also have a young child that rides in the car from time to time and didn't want them exposed to raw, SVTF rich fumes. I've been told by others that the smell may go away with further usage. The sound, ORP + stock exhaust is loder than bombs. I've heard from many that the ORP + Borla is a nice sound. In any event I'll keep my ORP for track days, dyno time, or the event that the car gets turned into a racer only. Awesome part and worth much more than the asking price

* The ORP adds more than minor gains IMO. Perhaps if you had tried it you may understand. Also, that story is very likely B.S. about the $8,000 fine. That user has one post to his credit and it was that story, wouldn't surprise me at all if one of you have created another user account just to spill such nonsense. Show me another example of anyone that has been slammed to that extent running an ORP or race header.
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SVTMonkey, HENCE THE NAME OFF-ROAD PIPE. I don't understand why people would put this on a daily driver.

From the vendors site...
"Bolts in place of your cat to free up horsepower. Made for racing use only! "

RACING USE ONLY PEOPLE> It is illegal, doesn't matter what state your in, I'm no tree hugger by far. But I do care about what my son will be breathing when he grows up.
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You guys should complain to the Feds then. Did you know that all military vehicles are un-regulated and exempt from federal emissions standards?
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Thanks LastRites, I am still considering this product, but I dont want to buy it and hook it up and be dismayed by the sound or the smell. And I think its going to be a little too much out of my price range to hook that up with a Borla Cat back system. Any replacement CATS that would be of interest?

EDIT: If I was going to buy this product it would be in the next couple weeks, can you keep me posted on if the smell goes away?
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I haven't found a high flow cat for the SVTF yet.
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Hmm so...daily driving a no with this product? Because I was looking for something I could leave on the car, and yes a lot of products say for off road use or for race use only but I know tons of people use them on their daily.
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Alot of "off road use only" products will even pass emissions but I'm confident the ORP isn't in that category. There are people running this part on daily driven vehicles but I'm not one. The install / removal is faster than an oil change once you get the hang of it but if you are looking for a mod to throw on and forget I'd advise against this one.
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what mods would you say would be acceptable in my situation, without voiding the warranty
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