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Old 10-01-2004, 12:28 AM   #1
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Traction Control

I have the winter package on my 02 svtf, and i konw the only way to fully turn off traction control is to take the fuse out. But i don't have a traction control fuse, is it the same as the abs fuse? and if it is, is it bad to be constantly removing and putting the fuse back in?


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been there done that works awesome
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someone really needs to make a TC FAQ sticky.
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it would come in handy to have a how-to for kill switches for all those not adept at wiring.
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yah not adept at wireing= me
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Does pulling the fuse disable the rear brakes altogether or just the ABS? In any case I still managed to pull an impressive amount of tire while shifting into second last night while testing the ORP.
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Pulling the fuse disables the Traction Control, ABS, and Electronic Brake Force Distribution. The rear brakes still work with the fuse pulled.

This happens because the T/C, ABS, and EBFD are all run from the same computer, which is mounted on the ABS pump module.

An ABS module with T/C and an ABS module without T/C are physically identical. The difference is in the software mounted to them.

A system with AdvanceTrac (not available on the SVTF) has a different pump module.

I got this from an hour of reading through the 2002 shop manual.

I do wonder if it's possible to fit the non-T/C computer to the pump module without having to remove the pump itself.
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we have EBD?
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we have EBD?
Yep. I don't think it's true 4-wheel independent, I'm still tring to figure that out.

The EBD is really an electronic replacement for the proportioning valve (front to rear brake bias) and, as the logic exists in ABS, also proportions the left/right bias - at least on the front. Maybe. I'm still reading through the stuff.

My original goal was to come up with a way to disable T/C without disabling ABS and EBFD. However, I came to find out that the ABS/TC/EBFD computer communicates to the car both by hardwire and by the local protocol bus - in other words, it talks to the cars computer with redundant methods. This makes fooling it a bit more difficult., and possibly not feasible. I'm proceeding slowly on this because I'm not fond of messing with brakes that work - and work well, I think all we SVTF owners will agree.

So if you pull your ABS fuse, not only do you lose the ABS, but the brakes will lock up in strange ways if you stomp on the pedal hard, and the pedal feel will be very different. Shouldn't be too much of an issue for straight-line motoring in the dry, but I don't know if I'd want to do it for Auto-X.
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i know what EBD is but i didnt know that we have it.
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