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Old 09-02-2010, 09:50 AM   #1
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Off-Road Pipe Heat at Oil Pan?

I have an off-road pipe on my '03 SVTF, installed by previous owner who installed a funky fabricated heat shield around it. I'm wondering if it would be wise to beef up this heat shield, or if wrap would do the job. It just seems like a hot exhaust pipe right under the oil pan is not the ideal setup. Why cook the oil in the pan, eh?

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i have had no problems with mine.
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I'd wrap it. The part of the oil pan the exhaust pipe passes under is quite shallow and I'd be afraid of a thin layer of oil on it getting cooked and oxidizing.

In any case, less heat means lower underbonnet temperatures and longer engine component life. Typically for every increase of 10 deg F you can halve the life of rubber and plastic components.

I wrapped my cat all the way from inlet to outlet flange after I had removed it to fit my turbocharger. The heat shields were rusted and useless by that point.
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More than likely, the ORP runs a lot cooler than a CAT does, since there's no restriction in the exhaust flow in that area anymore.
I don't think I've heard of a single incident here where someone has had heat problems with an ORP.
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Thanks for your responses. I was leaning towards a wrap. WD40 is certainly correct in saying that the ORP runs cooler than a cat, as there is no restriction. A cat generates a lot of heat when it's doing its thing, but the absence of the cat must logically reduce the temps at that point. I've had no problems thus far, but as bradshi says, less heat is a good thing for sure, and benefits all under-bonnet components.

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I've had no problems thus far, but as bradshi says, less heat is a good thing for sure, and benefits all under-bonnet components.
And, that is a good point.
I just want to make it clear I wasn't disputing the heat wrap being a good thing.
I was just saying the ORP in itself is a heat reduction over a CAT sitting under the oil pan.
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When setting still you wll get some some heat transfer... it'll be very little but there is some.

When the car is moving there shouldnt be any.... plus you have an SVT which has a factory oil cooler on it.
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Both of my svt focus have wrapped orp. One of my cars is sc. The wrap works for me.
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Plus an ORP is super easy to wrap. My first attempt at a wrapped CAT looked like a mutant mummy after I struggled to make a neat job of it. The second attempt was passable but not pretty.
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If you have no I'll effects of the orp I wouldn't worry about then. Wrap will cut back some temp but as it was previously stated, the stock cat produces more heat and was never wrapped from the factory and everything has been fine on stock svt's for years now. But whatever you do gl.
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