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Old 02-19-2010, 05:21 PM   #1
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Ceramic coating and heat wrap on header?

This may have already been posted, sorry if so.

Will there be any benefit to having an SVT header ceramic coated and heat wrapped?

I was going to originally just wrap it, but if there's a benefit in keeping the oil and motor cooler then maybe.


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the ceramic will do fine on its own, not the spray can kind, A friend of mine does this stuff for a living, the most popular is the silver, which looks like polished aluminum, the next is black which is better for higher heat, and there is also a white and titanium coating they do.

The header wrap tends to trap moisture in and results in rusty headers
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No no no no. Heat wrap does not trap moisture if you do it right. Get *one* roll of decent quality heat wrap (50 ft x 2 in) and it's enough for the header. Then get some high heat spray paint (such as DEI, ~$12), hit it with 2 coats and never worry about rust or heat again.

Heat wrap keeps in MUCH more heat than ceramic coating. I was able to touch John's wrapped turbo manifold right after he shut off the car. It was hot, but it didn't immediately burn my finger off.
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^^^^ I'm John.... and I wouldnt waste my time on ceramic coating... sure it LOOKS pretty but it doesnt even compare with header wrap.

Tom (1turbofocus) has his header wrapped on his SVO Mustang..... original wrap that he put on it back when he bought it years ago... with no damage what so ever to the downpipe.

You can tell the difference by the "touch test"

You try to touch a ceramic coated header while the car is still running and you're gonna loose flesh... but you can touch the wrapped header for at least 1-2 seconds before you have to remove it.
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So you guys are telling me if I drive my car in the rain or snow, and let it sit while the header wrap got wet, its not gonna hold in the moisture and rust anything???

Although you may not be able to touch a ceramic coated pipe while hot, it does not radiate heat nearly as much a a wrapped header would. You cannot wrap the entire header, the flanges etc are left exposed to the elements and to give off heat.
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When it gets wet, the pipes are also really hot still, I would think hot enough to evaporate moisture at an accelerated rate.

I thought about coating and wrapping my headers too but in the end it makes more sense to just wrap them, especially more cost effective to just do the wrap. I also think the wrapped headers/pipes look better than coated ones do.
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I sent my SVT header out too Jet Hot and I noticed 0 changes in running temp but in the time it takes too cool off...the ceramic header seems to cool down quicker
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So you guys are telling me if I drive my car in the rain or snow, and let it sit while the header wrap got wet, its not gonna hold in the moisture and rust anything???

Although you may not be able to touch a ceramic coated pipe while hot, it does not radiate heat nearly as much a a wrapped header would. You cannot wrap the entire header, the flanges etc are left exposed to the elements and to give off heat.
You have that backwards. A ceramic coated header is going to radiate heat *more* because it can't hold it in. A wrapped header lets off so much less heat (less radiating). There is no comparison, seriously. It's a no brainer...and it's cheaper.
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So you guys are telling me if I drive my car in the rain or snow, and let it sit while the header wrap got wet, its not gonna hold in the moisture and rust anything???

Although you may not be able to touch a ceramic coated pipe while hot, it does not radiate heat nearly as much a a wrapped header would. You cannot wrap the entire header, the flanges etc are left exposed to the elements and to give off heat.
I would have thought that you of all people on here would understand how much more efficient header wrap is at containing/cutting down on radiant heat transfer when compareed to ceramic coating.


Just how much trapped moisture and header rusting do you think would occure considering 99% of the cars on here are daily drivers (not being a smartass, asking a serious question)
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ive had mine wrapped for years. the header is stainless, its not gonna rust. and temperatures that the header reaches will eliminate all moisture almost immediately.

now....if your ORP isnt stainless and its wrapped, prepare for rust. the heat is already dissapated enough not to have the same effect.

i currently have both my header and a newer CFM ORP getting media blasted to get all the old wrap off. I have 2 rolls of DEI Titanium wrap sitting in the garage waiting to go on.


oh and ceramic coating does NOT look better than a good wrap job.
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