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Old 03-28-2008, 04:54 PM   #1
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OW 30 in the SVT?

How many of you run 0W 30 full synthetic in the SVT? I have done searches on this and haven't found much. What is the benefit of running this vs 5W 30? I live in California so I don't have to worry about real cold weather. What filter/oil combos are you guys running? I recall hearing some negative things about running Fram filters on the SVT, is this bull? I though I remembered their being a thread about oil/filter combos on here a long time ago but i could not find it...


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Since you live in california i wouldn't recommend running 0W-30 since its a thin oil to begin with once the engine temp gets to it it will be even thinner. i use mobil 1 5W-30 with a pure one oil filter the one in the grey box i can't remember what its called but its the best of the pure one filters.
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Fram filters typically are pretty cheap in terms of quality. A Wix filter is a good one and the motorcraft ones do a great job as well and are not too expensive. Personally I run Amsoil 5w20 with their oil filter on my ST. I like the extended drain intervals.
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As mentioned, 0w-30 should only be needed in sub-zero temperatures. It certainly won't cause problems in warm climates, though... if it's hot out, it will still act like a 30-weight when at full temp. It would be thinner than 5w-30 when cold, but it's still thick.

Fram has crap build quality, according to everybody who's ever brought it up. The Motorcraft filters are actually very good, so I would stick with them. Wix is very good, too.

I've been hearing more and more from professionals that Mobil-1 oil is crap, too. Amsoil and Motorcraft are good, though. Motorcraft now makes full synthetic, too.
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whats the torque spec on that plug? 21ft-lbs?
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if it calls for 5w-30, 0w-30 would be fine.

0W-30 oil acts like 0 weight oil when cold, but maintains a 30 weight viscosity when hot. Think of it this way: when your engine is hot, there is basically no difference between 0W-30, 5W-30, and 10W-30 oil. They are all acting like 30 weight oil at this point. It's at cold startup, when almost all engine wear occurs, that the viscosity is different. The 0 weight oil will get to the engine components quicker than the 10 weight oil.

amsoil just introduced a 0w-30 oil a few months ago.
https://www.amsoil.com/storefront/sso.aspx

try an amosil ea oil filter too.

you can run this oil and filter for at least 10,000 miles
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whats the torque spec on that plug? 21ft-lbs?
just hand tighten it with a wrench
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18 ft/lbs.
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i wouldn't recommend running 0W-30 since its a thin oil to begin with once the engine temp gets to it it will be even thinner.
This is NOT correct. 0W-30 will get no thinner at operating temperature than straight SAE30 oil would.

How?

All motor oils thin out when they heat up. A multi-viscosity oil (like 0W-30 or 5W-30) is a base viscosity oil (0 or 5 in this case) with viscosity extenders added. These additives essentially make these light base oils (which flow very well when the engine is cold, reducing cold start wear) lose viscosity with increased temperature, though not as the light base oil would, but rather as if they were the thicker "30" in their designations. In other words, these are oils that act as if they are "thin" oils when cold, but when heated up, thin out only as much as a thick oil would have at the same increased temperatures.

I assume this sort of behavior could be graphed out, temperature vs viscosity, and it would show the 0W-30 (or 5W-30) vs SAE30 oils starting at different viscosities cold, but as operating temperature approaches, the charted viscosities would converge.
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