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Old 02-19-2005, 11:57 AM   #1
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My SPI takes to much oil

Hi all!

Iíve been checking this place out every now and then to learn new things about my spi and I must say it rocks! Iíve got a 2000 SPI with 203,000 kilometers on it and have had no problems on it (with the exception of recalls) so far. Oh yaÖ and Iím Canadian eh!

This is now the second time Iíve changed the oil myself now and I'm getting somewhat worried because after adding 4 liters it's showing up on the dip stick as just above the add line. The last time I changed the oil it took close to 6 liters before it would read full!! I'm not going to add the extra 2 liters this time until I figure out what's going on. Is that even possible when the manual says it takes less than 4 (including filter)? I also noticed that the dipstick I have is the the one pictured in the manual for the ztec but I have an SPI. The one pictured for the spi is pitted and mine isn't. Mine's got the cris cross lines marking the range from add to full. Could it be that I have the wrong dip stick and that all these years I've been putting 2 extra liters of oil in my poor little engine or am I getting all worked up over nothing?

I also remember that every time I would go get my oil changed the mechanic would seem surprised at how much oil it would take

Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!

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Old 02-19-2005, 12:57 PM   #2
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I need to make a correction. I couldn't have put in 6 liters for my last oil change. It had to be 5 and a quarter roughly. I know this because I just added a whole liter on top of the four already in there I and it raised the level on the dip stick to just over 3/4 full. I would imagine it would take another 1/4 liter to reach the full mark.

Is 5 and a quarter liters still to much for this engine?
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Old 02-19-2005, 02:07 PM   #3
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Ok... I've checked with the parts departament at the dealership and based on the number off the stick, I have the correct one. So there goes that theory. I also spoke with a mechanic and he said he has never seen any spi focus take more than 4.25 liters. My car is now sitting in my garage with 5 liters of oil in it and it's still not reading full.

Here's exactly what I did. 1) I drove the car up my ramps. 2) drained the old oil. 3) removed the old filter. 4) attached the new filter(after greasing it) 5) put back the drain plug. 6) added a full 4 liter container of oil (every last drop) 6)started the car and drove down the ramps. 7)waited a few min's and checked the oil (it was just above the empty mark).

since then I've added the extra liter

Did I do anything wrong? This is even more confusing than I thought it would be.

Thanks for any input.
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Old 02-19-2005, 06:59 PM   #4
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Wow......... glad to help, if you need anything else just ask

it sounds like you did every thing OK unless you are checking the oil on very unlevel surface.
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Old 02-19-2005, 07:05 PM   #5
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lol....

sorry the forum hasnt been more help...I don't know what else to think, but you shouldnt put more than the recommended amount of oil in a car, regardless of what the dipstick says...

i mean, you put the drain plug back in and there are no crazy leaks anywhere, right?
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Also, you are using the proper oil filter, right? Have you checked it?
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Old 02-19-2005, 08:25 PM   #7
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Yup no leaks. I guess I forgot to mention that I'm using synthetic oil but that wouldn't make a difference right? It's had synthetic in there for over half it's life with no problems.

I'm using the Fram Extended guard XG3600 which is the same one I used the last time and seems to work just fine.

You must be rite. Either the dip stick is wrong, my engin has very serious and strange problems, or I have a very *special* engin Can engin problems render a bigger oil capacity? If not I can be reasonably confident the dip stick is wrong regardless of what the dealership says.

I guess the only way to know for sure is to compare it with an actual stick from someone elses car.

To cover my bases I should also mention that the last time I went in to get my oil change (Pensoil 15 minute oil change center) the mechanic lifted my dip stick and said "hear that? it's knocking, you should get it checked out asap" but to me is soundes more like a gurgling or bubbling sound and it's only when I lift up the dip stick. I do hear something that sounds like knocking when I accelerate. It's very faint though.

Thanks for the feedback!
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Old 02-25-2005, 10:11 PM   #8
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mine does the samething with the dipstick out running i think is just noise from the moving parts but the focus with spi does have a tsb for an engine knock but this also pops a code i don't remeber what the code # is but its a misfire code it states that the spi head builds up excessive carbon on the valves and causes them to stick and the only way to fix it is to get a revised head
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wow thats crazy
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