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Old 08-01-2004, 05:57 PM   #1
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any thoughts on the mac short ram intake. i am thinking of doing the shorty cuz i do live where it rains and puddles are all over all the time and i do not want to have to fear with a full cai, no water loc is wanted. is mac good?


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Rams work well, as long as the weather isnt too hot. You will get better gains from a CAI in warm/hot weather, but i understand the water injestion fear...

You can add a bypass valve to a CAI to avoid the problem though.
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i do live in the heat, 100+ summers, and cool winters, rain and such. so still the cai is recomended huh. i heard you mention the bypass before also, where can i see a price? i was going to get an intake used (ebay). theoreticly the intake itself should not wear out, and i can always replace the filter with a k&n or clean the one on there. no need to fork out all the dough for new when used cant hurt, the wallet either
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Well, I have a MAC Shorty on my car and had a CAI on my previous vehicle. I also live where there are torrential rains and flooding throughout the year. East Texas has horrible downfalls.

While I had my CAI I did not have any problems with it. You only need to avoid puddles that will submerge a good deal of the filter. A few puddles wont hurt. DO not get spooked by horror stories. They do happen, but how many have the CAI vs. how many have had a true problem? The ratio is greatly in favor of those with no problems.

As far as the E-bay intakes go, they are not too popular here. The main concern is name recognition. CLosely followed by problems with the lower mount. Of course, I have heard the same thing about the AEM CAI.

That all said, I like the MAC. Suprised? Well, quality is very good. The install is super easy and It looks great under the hood. The down side is the previously mentioned heat problems. I can tell when my car has sat out in the sun and I start it up. The gains are OK, but the sound is great.

Either way you will be doing better than the stock air box.
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Old 08-01-2004, 07:24 PM   #5
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i wasn't talkin ebay(bomz) intakes, but a used aem, mac, short or full cai ... whatever i decided.
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aha... after searching just about every site i know of i found it...

http://www.namotorsports.net/detail....t_cd=AE20-401S

this one is made specifically for the AEM intake, but it will work on anything with the same sized tubing. if you need a differnt size, they are out there somewhere...

As for water injestion, yes, it is rare. but, personally, i would much rather spend the $ on the bypass valve then take that risk, especially since in my area flash flooding on the roadways is quite common.

one more thought...
there is a post currently running on the jet about intakes on the SPI, you might want to check it out for some good info, if you havent already.
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thanks urn, i also am a subscriber to the 'better safe than sorry' thought process. so go with the cai over the ram. and i believe the aem can be shortened to a short ram, am i right? so in the cool wet months i can just do that and not have to worry at all, a lil of column a and all of column b. gatta love it!!
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i have not heard if the AEM can be used for both short ram and CAI... but i think there are a few out there that can be, though i cannot remember which ones. again, since we are talking about zetec intakes, the zetecers would probably know more then me, i havent taken the time to study zetec intakes (although i should get off my lazy bum and do it...)

but i have heard of several ppl who switch intakes with the seasons. here the wet months are the hot months, so i am out of luck either way... lol.
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the place onnthe aem where in apears two pieces come together. i thought the if you did not ad the second piece, just the filter, it was a short ram. if the piece is added then the filter on the end, it was the full cai. carless assumption?
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it may work, its worth a try. however, look at the pictures of the intakes and note the differances in the way the tube bends.

CAI
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I dont know exactly how this intake fits in the engine bay, so i don't know if it would work, but the tubing is differnt.
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