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Old 11-01-2012, 09:38 AM   #91941
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No need to worry about 2nd gear, he wont hit 3rd or need 4th at all.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:39 AM   #91942
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They need to make a controlled environment dyno/wind tunnel.

Air temp is always 60*, true wind speed, etc. would make dynos a true numbers game vs penor competition.
exactly.

would be nice to eliminate some variables.

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you break it....you fix it...

yea......never broken anything at an auto-x yet. Also I'm tech inspecting your car before we run.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:42 AM   #91943
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No.
its false because dyno settings could've changed, air temperatures/density for sure changed etc.
unless you did back to back tunes. i.e. pull onto dyno get reading. take outside street tune and pull right back onto dyno then its an invalid argument.

I could go dyno my car today with 40* temps, a fresh oil change and then dyno it again around june/july with 90* temps and easily get a 20-25hp difference on the same dyno.

I'm saying unless you are tuning on the dyno or have some other quantifable data like difference in quarter mile or lap times etc (which still isnt very good data)
then you dont know it actually picked up that sort of power.

dyno's are supposed to be a tuning tool not an e-penor bragging tool.
I agree on the temperature, density altitude etc but, the dyno is calibrated by Mustang once a month, proper vehicular weight and, power at 50 is used so, that theory is thrown out of the window. Then, you also wont gain 100 at the tire on the same dyno with weather and oil changes alone. Also, you must have missed where I stated the car dropped a half second at the track on, a hot humid day, of all days.

But, again what do I know? My cars are all stock and will never be tuned, let alone a race car.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:43 AM   #91944
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An off the shelf tune is WAY better than a a tom tune. I heard nothing but bad things about him from around here.

And the tune is basically just drive ability for an svtf that is n/a. Fixes all of the shit ford was lazy about. Aka all a. Issues the kid is talking about and some more
Tom does good tuning! He did a good job on my NA focus build...and he even talked to me on the phone at 9-11pm multiple times to trouble shoot issues with the build (not tune related).

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Tom tunes from datalogs. But he is impossible to get a hold of half the time.

Randy at fswerks did mine. He sent me a base tune. Is like to have it fine tuned, but it peob won't do much for svt. Its pretty maxed out. The car bogged on take offs, and shuddered between 2k-3300 ish really bad in all gears. Dunno what Ford was thinking. Tune changed all that. Felt like a new car
Maybe things changed, but he was reliable and helpful with me!

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Does this Tom guy come to you or, is he an email tuner? You cant tune a car via email, you need to be in the car to know whats going on and, how it is responding to the changes.
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Even the guys at fswerks tune from datalogs sent via email.
Yup. They works great!

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Was waiting for you to post, didn't feel like typing it out myself lol.
lollies. Me too.

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he's still going, apparently I'm a horrible person and its not christian to say your sorry if you dont make it right etc.
Well, you are horrible, aren't ya?!

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Best part!
now he wants me to find him another set of cats for $75 lol
Tell him to eat a dick and be done with it!
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:45 AM   #91945
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They need to make a controlled environment dyno/wind tunnel.

Air temp is always 60*, true wind speed, etc. would make dynos a true numbers game vs penor competition.
It would be nice if, they were all loading dynos in a 100% climate controlled environment down to simulating altitudes and all and, were all calibrated to perfection.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:45 AM   #91946
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But, again what do I know? My cars are all stock and will never be tuned, let alone a race car.
From what I've heard, your car is a cobbled together shit box.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:48 AM   #91947
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From what I've heard, your car is a cobbled together shit box.
Not sure how either could be, they are exactly how they were when they were sold new.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:50 AM   #91948
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I agree on the temperature, density altitude etc but, the dyno is calibrated by Mustang once a month, proper vehicular weight and, power at 50 is used so, that theory is thrown out of the window. Then, you also wont gain 100 at the tire on the same dyno with weather and oil changes alone. Also, you must have missed where I stated the car dropped a half second at the track on, a hot humid day, of all days.

But, again what do I know? My cars are all stock and will never be tuned, let alone a race car.
I agree you won't pick up 100hp on weather and oil changes. correct I did miss the part about it dropping time. still adding more boost/fuel on a road tune isn't any different than doing it via email.

for it to be a fair comparo you'd have to get the car re-tuned for the new turbo from the email guy and then have the road tuner do his magic and see what the power difference is.

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No need to worry about 2nd gear, he wont hit 3rd or need 4th at all.
ROFL dick.

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From what I've heard, your car is a cobbled together shit box.
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Old 11-01-2012, 09:52 AM   #91949
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Not sure how either could be, they are exactly how they were when they were sold new.
a 96 DSM would've crank walked at least 4 times by now. no way it's exactly as it was sold new
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Like I said on facebook.

Less abrupt braking, smoother steering/throttle inputs, no getting lost on course.

I'll be faster and easier on your car. its a win-win
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