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Old 08-24-2012, 10:24 AM   #87061
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I'll run my moms focus wagon against both of you


so............we rent out the track at grattan next year for a day?



Yup!

thats a pretty killer combo for track use on pretty much every platform car.
That'd be hilarious, but by the time next year hits, i dont think the focus will be stock. I think i am going to fully gut the rear, and track prep it for both autox and rally x. And run it till i need AAA to get home.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:26 AM   #87062
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:27 AM   #87063
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Step 1.

Tires, above all else tires. a 100% bone stock focus on sticky top shelf tires is going to blow a fully built on shitty tires focus out of the water.

Step 2.

Driver Mod, seat time. Again, cannot stress this enough. there are guys you will be going to track days/auto-x's with that could drive a shopping cart around the track faster than a inexperienced driver can pilot a fully built focus.

Step 3.

Keep it simple. the more adjust ability/options you build into your car the more chance you have of adjusting things to be worse than stock.

you'd be shocked how many different types of common/popular "track" suspension setups there are on the market that perform far worse than a stock SVT setup. a high end Koni/Bilstein shock with a bigger rear sway bar and stock springs will out handle 90% of the off the shelf coilover/lowering kits you can buy.

will it keep the car as "flat" as a coil kit? nope, but maximum grip levels will be higher. and if you're after max performance thats what you need.

Step 4.

Know the difference between something that actually makes you faster and something that just makes you "feel" faster.

Theres a reason a bone stock G35 can get around an auto-x track faster than 90% of the highly modified built mustangs that come play.

Stiff suspension is great if you're racing on glass. if the track is bumpy you want something a bit softer that can actually flex and keep the tires on the ground.

Body roll =! slow handling.
Lack of body roll =! good handling.

theres lots more of course but most of it can be found online and I'm sick of typing.


When you are doing research on track builds make sure you're looking at actual racecar builds not just "race inspired" builds.

the guys that actually track their cars seem to have far less money into their cars than track inspired guys......yet they seem to be faster.
1. Tires are a given, even for derps.
2. The SVT Recaro's will do just fine for now.
3&4. Thanks for the input, but I already have a fairly good idea where I'm going with this car's suspension, and I have a venue in which I can run rough / approximate simulations for various setups.
In addition, Grattan is resurfacing their track which means when I take it there, I would like to take advantage of that fact - they also have a tricky downhil twist similar to that at Laguna Seca (but thankfully nowhere near as gnarly) that I'd like to be prepared for, hence my dilemma of spring rates since this car is also a DD.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:28 AM   #87064
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Must climb out of debt first, finish bike second before dumping money into the focus
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:35 AM   #87065
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H&R Race springs + Koni Yellows.

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Thats my backup plan if i cant find the right spring height / rate that i want.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:35 AM   #87066
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Ben, I had a SRI, I now have stock box back on. Still don't know why, but the car ran RICH at WOT. We tried a few diff tunes. And no change. Put stock box back on and its reading good now.

As for Orp/hfc. My car is somewhat loud between 2-3300k. I heard words car last night with a hfc and it definitely wasn't as loud. If your going to get exhaust, the only one made that sounds good anymore, is FSwerks stealth exhaust.

SVT03 has it with an Orp.
Word has a Magna flow with HFC I believe. So you could come and hear theirs one day before you decide.

As for chased reinforcement. I've only auto x my car a few times. The only things I want to change is the rear sway and maybe a rear strut bar. The front strut bar did nothing. Basically looks as I got it super uber cheap.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:36 AM   #87067
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Thats my backup plan if i cant find the right spring height / rate that i want.
Either those or KW coilovers if you want awesome coilovers. I'll be putting ksport coilovers on in spring
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:41 AM   #87068
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2. The SVT Recaro's will do just fine for now.
Klod didn't suggest that you change your seats.
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:42 AM   #87069
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That'd be hilarious, but by the time next year hits, i dont think the focus will be stock. I think i am going to fully gut the rear, and track prep it for both autox and rally x. And run it till i need AAA to get home.
Thats fine. I'll still run ya'll for shits and giggles
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Old 08-24-2012, 10:42 AM   #87070
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Ben, I had a SRI, I now have stock box back on. Still don't know why, but the car ran RICH at WOT. We tried a few diff tunes. And no change. Put stock box back on and its reading good now.

As for Orp/hfc. My car is somewhat loud between 2-3300k. I heard words car last night with a hfc and it definitely wasn't as loud. If your going to get exhaust, the only one made that sounds good anymore, is FSwerks stealth exhaust.

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Word has a Magna flow with HFC I believe. So you could come and hear theirs one day before you decide.

As for chased reinforcement. I've only auto x my car a few times. The only things I want to change is the rear sway and maybe a rear strut bar. The front strut bar did nothing. Basically looks as I got it super uber cheap.
also i have magnaflow resonator/borla muffler 2.5in
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