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Old 09-07-2006, 07:47 PM   #25
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Now see it didnt hurt either one of you to post over here ...

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No, it didn't hurt, I just don't have time to keep up with two forums.
In this case, I felt a NEED to correct some Really messed up Misinformation that I had heard about. When I read it, my jaw dropped.
You know as well as anyone that I designed and built the JetFest Auto-X course.
I had some assistance shagging cones, but Ron had nothing to do with it other than allowing me to be the designer and submitting my design to the Tire Rack Safety Committee.
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:22 PM   #26
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You are 100% correct with that statement , But unlike fj we dont delete unwanted post here just because the guy does not know what he is talking about

I even towed your car back to your house from Ohio for you

And sence ron allows negitave comments about tom/focus-power to stay and when i help some one or there is something like a GTG he has them deleted , I thought it only fair to leave it

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Old 09-07-2006, 08:33 PM   #27
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Old 09-07-2006, 08:52 PM   #28
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I even towed your car back to your house from Ohio for you

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That was Very Appreciated, and I try to point that out to folks whenever I get a chance or see that someone has a skewed perception of you.
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Old 09-07-2006, 09:25 PM   #29
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I know dont sweat it , I was glad to help

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Old 09-08-2006, 08:51 PM   #30
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Tom - how exactly is it Randy's fault that you got run off FJ for not paying your sponsorship dues?
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Umm, your asking for it with that one, lol.
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its the truth, please explain.
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Sponsorship dues or not, membership to the site is free. Banned for not paying dues? Something doesn't add up.
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Without stepping in the middle of this w/o ALL of the Facts, it had to do with Sponsorship dues.
I know nothing more, and I'm not "Taking sides" here.
IF there was a problem with "Proper Sponsorship Guidelines", then it would follow that regular Membership would still allow an avenue for promoting wares to some extent.
ASSUMING (Stress that word) that obligations were not met, that would be undesirable.
Since I'm not in the middle, nor do I want to be, I'm simply explaining a Portion of the logic as I've heard it.
Tom KNOWS that WE are Good and Cool and I Respect him and his SKILLS Greatly.
Any Conflict is between Tom and Ron and Whoever Tom may have issues with, but it's NOT with the Bulk of either FJ OR the MAJORITY of its Moderators.
SOME Moderators have chosen to pass Judgement on this issue, and that is their Deal, BUT, that is NOT a Reflection of the site, only of Personal Opinions.
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Old 09-09-2006, 06:02 AM   #35
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Tom - how exactly is it Randy's fault that you got run off FJ for not paying your sponsorship dues?
Yet another fj lackey ,

First who said it was randys fault ?

Second i was run off because i WOULDNT pay it , the cost or what fj wanted just to talk about my product in my opinion was insanely high and still is

Now run back to fj before they catch you over here , see if you can find something else to talk about that doesent make you look so foolish

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Old 09-09-2006, 07:29 AM   #36
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Without stepping in the middle of this w/o ALL of the Facts, it had to do with Sponsorship dues.
I know nothing more, and I'm not "Taking sides" here.
IF there was a problem with "Proper Sponsorship Guidelines", then it would follow that regular Membership would still allow an avenue for promoting wares to some extent.
ASSUMING (Stress that word) that obligations were not met, that would be undesirable.
Since I'm not in the middle, nor do I want to be, I'm simply explaining a Portion of the logic as I've heard it.
Tom KNOWS that WE are Good and Cool and I Respect him and his SKILLS Greatly.
Any Conflict is between Tom and Ron and Whoever Tom may have issues with, but it's NOT with the Bulk of either FJ OR the MAJORITY of its Moderators.
SOME Moderators have chosen to pass Judgement on this issue, and that is their Deal, BUT, that is NOT a Reflection of the site, only of Personal Opinions.
But you did step into the middle of this without all the facts. You did that in your first post. And...like it or not, moderators are a reflection of a site. Just like I'm a refection of my company and Tom is a reflection of his company. No getting away from it.

In short, you can't have it both ways.
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