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Old 05-29-2006, 11:38 PM   #41
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the problem with free access is one the cost of the land and two the cost of insurance, no one realizes the risk the owner of this strip, the city has to be insured for, its really not a top priority of any major city. plus up keep costs money.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:25 AM   #42
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This is why every major city should have a strip with free access, and a little statement that says that only the drivers can be held responsible for any accidents that occur on the strip. If people could have a place to go where they could have a safe race, not have to wait forever, and not have to pay, well accidents like these would occur a lot less often.
1. The 95% of the people on the road who don't race, and pay their taxes aren't gonna wanna pay for this strip (myself included)
2. All the people who wreck at this free strip would still clog up our already clogged legal system with bullshit lawsuites.
3. I already pay high enough insurance for all those dumbshits on the highway on their crotch rockets doing 120 through traffic, and all of you who think you're Fernando Alonso or Petter Solberg and decide to do this racing shit on the street, and all of the SUVs that don't pay their fair share of insurance to begin with. I don't need my rates going higher for a bunch of retards who are too cheap to do it the right way and go to a real dragstrip, autoX, or road course.
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:48 AM   #43
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Just wanted to add.. I was in court last month for a speeding ticket and this guy was ahead of me.

Father of 2 young kids, had a wife, and full time job. Arrested for DUI spent the night in jail was way over the legal limit and the judge fined him $250.

In my opinion something is wrong with that.. your telling me that a man who has had to much to drink and who is weaving all over the road gets a 250 fine while two people who take off from a light can get there car impounded, jail, fines, lose license... both did what they did deliberatly, both can lose control of there cars at any instant... I just dont see how in this day and age when drunk drivers cause a majority of accidents there are not greater fines.

I am not supporting street racing, I am just wondering why punishments are so much different for crimes that can have the same affects.



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In Washington you can get a "once in a lifetime" DUI deferment if you are an alcoholic, druggie, etc. and seek treatment. After succesful treatment the charge is dropped

Me running my car up to 60-80 for like what, a city block, isn't nearly as dangerous as a junkie rolling around all over town (opinion)
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Old 05-30-2006, 09:11 AM   #45
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^^ yes true in some ways, not in others. You could still kill someone in that one block speed run.... it's hard to weigh in if one crime is better or lighter then another but the potential is still there. It only takes one accident to kill someone (type of saying)......
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Just wanted to add.. I was in court last month for a speeding ticket and this guy was ahead of me.

Father of 2 young kids, had a wife, and full time job. Arrested for DUI spent the night in jail was way over the legal limit and the judge fined him $250.

In my opinion something is wrong with that.. your telling me that a man who has had to much to drink and who is weaving all over the road gets a 250 fine while two people who take off from a light can get there car impounded, jail, fines, lose license... both did what they did deliberatly, both can lose control of there cars at any instant... I just dont see how in this day and age when drunk drivers cause a majority of accidents there are not greater fines.

I am not supporting street racing, I am just wondering why punishments are so much different for crimes that can have the same affects.



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You never know there might be more to it then just what you see/heard. From what i've heard if your charged with a DUI your insurance company drops you instantly (probably not all of them but i'm sure most will), and if you want to be reinsurred it's gonna be hell to find a company that'll take you, and even if they do the rates are most likely gonna be insane. The driver is also suppossed to get his license suspended for however long (I guess depends on how good a lawyer you have). There might be other little things associated with it...but these are the major ones that i've heard of. I might be wrong with some of the information though cause it has been a while since i've heard this but i'm pretty sure i didn't distort my facts that much.
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Always sad to see this kind of thing happen.
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My son's friend just graduated from high school two days ago and his parents gave him a brand new 06 WRX as a graduation gift. Yesterday at 5:37 PM, he killed himself and sent 6 other people to the hospital street racing his older brother.

A family pulled out in front of him, probably thinking that at the posted speed limit (45 mph), they had plenty of space. What the family didn't know is that the WRX was going 120 mph. Race tracks are there to provide a controlled space for racing. So many things on the street are out of your control.

Think it can't happen to you???
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Just to add, the average cost of a DUI is about $7,000 overall with insurance rate hikes 'n the Breathalizer Starters 'n such.

I think if a drunk person cannot pass a field sobriety test within set tolerances, IE not just a bit over the limit but have their wits but sloppy drunk, then it should be an automatic 1 year suspension on their liscence for the first offence and a lifetime ban the second time. The statistics on how many alcohol-related accidents are cause by repeat offenders are just awful!

In all honesty, after going to SCCA events, racing somebody on the street, even if it is the safest it could possibly be, just seems terribly lame and uninteresting. Given that there's an event nearly every weekend within easy reach of everybody, I don't think we neccesarily need to start building strips... And after trail-braking at 70mph to hit the perfect apex with inches to spare, going in a straight line on a city street just couldn't sound less interesting.

Not to mention that that experience gives me an idea of how a car acts at those speeds and puts the fear of god in me if I were to try it in an unknown environment with what could be a total bonehead just a couple feet away...
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My son's friend just graduated from high school two days ago and his parents gave him a brand new 06 WRX as a graduation gift. Yesterday at 5:37 PM, he killed himself and sent 6 other people to the hospital street racing his older brother.

A family pulled out in front of him, probably thinking that at the posted speed limit (45 mph), they had plenty of space. What the family didn't know is that the WRX was going 120 mph. Race tracks are there to provide a controlled space for racing. So many things on the street are out of your control.

Think it can't happen to you???
Found the News reports on it.

ABC: http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?sec...ews&id=4217545
CBS: http://cbs2chicago.com/topstories/lo...150064750.html
NBC: http://www.nbc5.com/news/9291889/detail.html

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