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Old 05-29-2006, 07:25 PM   #31
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^^Very good comments...

My $.02 on street racing comes down to 2 factors, both of which trump speeding on your own as far as danger to yourself and others.

When you are racing somebody, you will find yourself caught up in competing and doing things that you would never do if you were just trying to drive fast on your own. Just by dint of racing instead of speeding, common sense starts to take a back seat to winning. Anyone who has really raced will know all about how much the "Red Mist" can cloud your thinking.

Secondly, you are dealing with an unknown and uncontrollable factor, which is the other car. Seeing as the majority of the time it's somebody who you do not know but is eager to prove themselves, how can you possibly put your trust in their judgement and skill? It doesn't matter if you're friggin Schumacher himself, you can't control that other person's actions. And though you cannot control them, you are responsible for them both legally and morally.

I definitely agree with you but I had two instances last night in relatively heavy traffic where an Acura TL (2.4) and then later a Dodge Inrtepid R/T were trying to race me when I had my cruise control on at 80mph.. They were acting like a$$hats by falling back and then flooring it up to 95-100mph and then slamming on their brakes right before they run into the bumper of the car in front of them. So I jumped in the HOV lane and got away from them b/c I didn't want to be behind them if they failed to stop in time.

There are times when street racing can be safe, and then there are times when people with no common sense at all will try it when they shouldn't be thinking about it at all...
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:08 PM   #32
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While I am not at all defending these guys racing 95mph in a 40mph zone, the article does say that the family was struck while making a left turn. It sounds like the street racers may have had the right of way, and the collision could have been avoided if the driver making the left turn had yielded (if he/she could even see the cars coming that fast, I don't know).
I'm just saying, everyone wants to blame 100% of it on the streetracers, and not the poor, "innocent" family. Sometimes facts get distorted, and that's how stupid laws get made and end up wasting lots of your tax money.
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:35 PM   #33
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street racing under any circumstances is illegal and dangerous. road conditions change everyday and one day it seems like it's 100% safe while the next day there will be potholes and you think to yourself that road is safe wen it's really not... or a kid might run out between 2 parked cars. you just never know. it also requires the maturity and restraint of the driver to know what is right and what is wrong. racing at the track is fine because of the controlled environment but the street is ever-changing. i don't want to sound hypocritical because i myself had raced on streets and might drive over the posted speed limit but that doesn't make it any safer or any more legal.
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:37 PM   #34
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Hey Chad I picked up on that and all is cool, was vibing ya' man. Great input from everyone I think and I've really enjoyed the reading, especially Carrera26...you sir appear to be a very wise man!

Here's more food for thought: It's tough for me to recognize differing levels of crime. It's either break the law or do not but man does it sem like every driver on the road gets caught up in the p3nis rattling show. You see it all the time if you live in a city, may not be doing 90 in a 30 but it's still a lot of mine is bigger (faster) than yours. Even the soccor moms do it, the guy in the rusted & bondo'd Escort will do it. Running is running.

I'd like to also interject that I will never run in traffic or in rural areas. Each story that I post is in an area where children and other people should not be like the interstate or roads leading to BFE. I usually post all of my runs online and if you do a search you'll see that it's just not too often that I do that. A very good point was brought up about the other guy, the one that you (me) are running and that got me to thinking about something I hadn't considered before so thank you for the thought.

Although we may be on differing sides of the argument here your maturity in expressing your thoughts is appreciated.
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:38 PM   #35
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Street racing has been going on for years...but feel that doing it in a area where there are alot of other cars traveling etc is just plain stupid....going out in the middle of no were....risking ones own life and not others is the way it should be done if the need is there. Yes....I know it is still not legal but how many of us here follow all the laws that are set down?
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but how many of us here follow all the laws that are set down?
I do!!!

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Old 05-29-2006, 08:55 PM   #37
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They should outlaw low performance drivers.... not high performance cars.

Yes street racing is illegal, have I done it.... yes. Has others on here done it.... yes... I would guess that 80% of the people on here have done it at least once... does that make it any less illegal.. NO

but if you have done it, stop your bitching because you're just as guilty as the guys who caused this wreck.
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Old 05-29-2006, 11:36 PM   #38
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While I am not at all defending these guys racing 95mph in a 40mph zone, the article does say that the family was struck while making a left turn. It sounds like the street racers may have had the right of way, and the collision could have been avoided if the driver making the left turn had yielded (if he/she could even see the cars coming that fast, I don't know).
I'm just saying, everyone wants to blame 100% of it on the streetracers, and not the poor, "innocent" family. Sometimes facts get distorted, and that's how stupid laws get made and end up wasting lots of your tax money.
If you watched the National CTV report and not the Local CTV report you actually get the witness's accounts of the accident, and It was the street racers fault, because the wintess said they started to make their turn as the cars were a block away.

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There are times when street racing can be safe, and then there are times when people with no common sense at all will try it when they shouldn't be thinking about it at all...
Really there is no such thing as safe street racing, You can't control the other drivers around you, and you can't tell whats down the road, and you don't win anything. So what's the point of doing it ?
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:00 AM   #39
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This is why every major city should have a strip with free access, and a little statement that says that only the drivers can be held responsible for any accidents that occur on the strip. If people could have a place to go where they could have a safe race, not have to wait forever, and not have to pay, well accidents like these would occur a lot less often.
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I agree with you Lucidity, but even if there was a small fee of let's say $20 it would still be worth it.
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