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Old 04-02-2006, 12:59 PM   #1
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Stage 1 or Stage 2 cams on ATX?

Ok here is my problem. I purchased Stage 2 Crower Cams From this Loser> slimjim9287 and He sent me damaged Cams and refuses to answer my emails.

Now I need to get New Cams. I have an ATX and I was wondering what would work best, Stage 1 or Stage 2 Cams? I am planning to go with comp cams. The difference between stage 1 and Stage 2 is the Duration. 220 on stage 1 at .050 and 228 on stage 2 at .050. I do not want to lose driveability and I don't want to lose my bottom end.


So what do you guys think Stage 1 or 2 on my ATX?


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Old 04-02-2006, 05:55 PM   #2
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first of all, if you have a problem with a product post in the sellers review section to let everyone know, and second you can run either talk to zx34me, he has stage 2's in his atx.
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If you would have taken the time to look you would see that I already did that!
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Old 04-02-2006, 08:50 PM   #4
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i did look and didnt see it, not trying to start an argument here.
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um actually i dont see the problem here, he doesnt really need to post in the sellers section with his problem, b/c hes just using it as a back story to why hes getting new cams. So chill out blackNRed, but i agree with him, talk to zx34me.
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as for the cams, the difference you noted with the stg I and II's would make it hardly worth it NOT to go with the stg IIs, comp assures that both are drop in cams anyway, with frIIs you might come up with some problems but the comp cams are fine, cams dont ruin transmissions, it is a simple mod in terms of reliability and those type of cams wont net you the gains required for tranny rebuild, when you hear stories from people messin up their tranny's after modding it is because of their driving habbits, upshift/downshift/upshift/downshift, this is what beats your tranny to death, not cams
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as for the cams, the difference you noted with the stg I and II's would make it hardly worth it NOT to go with the stg IIs, comp assures that both are drop in cams anyway, with frIIs you might come up with some problems but the comp cams are fine, cams dont ruin transmissions, it is a simple mod in terms of reliability and those type of cams wont net you the gains required for tranny rebuild, when you hear stories from people messin up their tranny's after modding it is because of their driving habbits, upshift/downshift/upshift/downshift, this is what beats your tranny to death, not cams
I have been told by the reps. at comp cams that if I go with stage 2's, I would have to change my stall converter since my car is auto. If I don't then the stage 2 Cams might cause me problems.

Also since my car is a daily driver they stated that stage 1 cams are focused on the lower range of rpm which is where I would be on regular days.
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a flasher can fix the idle...if that means stall converter..and stg1 is only gonna net you about a 10% increase in hp...stg2 comp/frIIs do just as well in the lower rpms
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Stage 1 Comp cams have a higher duration then Ford Racing Stage 2 Cams. It is the combination of lift and duration that gives you power.

Comp cam stage 2's are 228 Duration at .050 which is very high for an Auto.

I asked the reps at comp cams and they told me that you can not compensate by increasing the idle.
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