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Old 08-03-2007, 12:09 PM   #11
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^^^The way I would see it, no, you can't put any SVT parts on your car. Reason being, it wasn't a factory option. Even if it was a factory option the car has to be built in those years. So if you could get an SVT suspension on a non SVT from the factory in say 2002 - 2004, your non SVT would have had to been built between those years to qualify to add the parts after the fact. See where I'm going with this.

You CAN get a set of DOT R-compounds on your stock wheels diameter and width, you can run a K&N or other higher flowing drop in air filter as long as you use the stock air box, and I think you can change your bushings in the front say bar, or change the front sway but not the rear. The rear must remain untouched.

I've seen people get kicked out of HS for less though. One guy had a Mazda 3 and he put a stock Mazda 3 spoiler on his car (sedan) but the spoiler wasn't a factory option for his year or something. Had to remove to stay in HS
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Old 08-03-2007, 01:47 PM   #12
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thats at nationals though right? not at a small region event?
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the "option package conversion" has to be for the same model year and it must be COMPLETE. So SVT parts can only be put on the same year, either 02,03, or 04, and you have to put EVERY SVT part on to stay stock. Basically, it's not worth it. Either go up to STS or just stay stock and enjoy the drive. The class you are in is not so important as learning about yourself and your car and HAVING FUN. Also, whether it's nationals or a small event, any SCCA event follows the same rules
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^^^ding ding ding

Basically you would have to upgrade the entire car to an SVT. Might as well buy one then, ya know.

Just have fun in your stock class and learn to drive better. Or if you want to upgrade the car and run a different class.

The one nice thing about stock classes is you can run DOT R-compound tires. You can't run those in any of the street touring classes.
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if you wish to remain in stock class there are but a few things you can do to the car. Obviously I would recommend upgrading the driver first, but if you want a more mechanical answer here ya go. Any shocks using oem mounting position, stock wheel width/size, but not weight (hint: enkei light weight wheels). Dot-r tires (prefer V-710's), agressive alignment without camber kits. K&N air filter, front sway bar and bushings. Thats pretty much it.
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also was wondering what the service manual gave as specs for wheel alignment, etc. cause I know that some gm cars can put a camber kit on there car and still run stock class because there service manual says you can do that. Thanks for all of your help
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The rules are so broad in many respects that you could drive a truck through them.

Things become very sticky and political at the National level, but a lot of the regions tend to be more relaxed.

For example, if an older car is damaged and needs body work (Corvettes, Opels and BMW 2002's come to mind) often OEM replacement parts are difficult to find. As a result, they often resort to fiberglass replacements. Depending on the manufacturer, the fiberglass is marginally lighter than the OEM.

Usually, a discussion amongst the drivers in that class takes place prior to the event or runs. If all the drivers agree to allow the car to remain in the same class, then the officials usually don't take issue with it.

With respect to upgrading with parts from an SVT - and I am not encouraging cheating, there are very few people out there that would recognize a difference. Of course, brakes would be pretty obvious, but if you took the suspension or the stock air box from an SVT and installed them on your car you will notice a difference, but I doubt anyone else would. Especially with a Ford part number stamped on them.

In H Stock, you would see some gain, but not enough to really set you apart.
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wow i am really confused or just stupid... you decide... What class would i be in with an cold-air intake, 2.5" cat back exhaust, cosworth header and flex/pipe, 17 inch rims with r rated tires, performance clutch and tranny and a 50 shot of nitrous.
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First off you can't run Nitrous at autocrosses, so you'll have to leave the bottle at home, or take it out at the event. That being said, are the tires R compound tires, or do you mean the Speed Rating is R? There is a huge difference.

But for the most part, I'm pretty sure you would be looking at FSP (F Street Prepared)
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Man i removed my rear seats and it thows me out of DSP!!! ouch I dont do it to win anyway!
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