Cam Gear Install and Tuning Question - Focus Fanatics
Ford Focus Forum
HomeContact UsAbout UsGalleryDiscussion ForumsMarketplace



Go Back   Focus Fanatics > Ford Focus SVT > SVT Performance (2002-2004)

SVT Performance (2002-2004) The place to chat about any 2.0L SVT DOHC Zetec engine performance, tuning and exhaust related upgrades.

Search This Forum | Image Search | Advanced Search    
FocusFest Ford Focus Tire & Wheels FocusFanatics Merchandise

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-24-2006, 04:14 PM   #1
bushmasterguy
Focus Enthusiast
 
bushmasterguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Fan#: 16812
Location: South Texas
What I Drive: 2004 Ford Focus SVT - CD Silver

Posts: 125
FF Reputation: 1 bushmasterguy Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
Cam Gear Install and Tuning Question

I just bought a Kent Cam Gear and I talked to a shop with a dyno today to install it and set it.

The guy at the shop told me he would have no idea what "degrees" to set the cam gear at and that I would have to tell him what degree to have it set at. I told him I thought that is what he would figure out by running a baseline dyno and then another dyno after adjusting the sprocket. He told me that is not how it works. I need to tell him what the degrees of the cam needs to be set at for my Focus SVT is so he can set it correctly.

So I guess my question is what is the correct degree to set my cam at for optimal performance?




__________________
The "Go":
Focus Central 65mm TB, Steeda SRI, FC 2 PC Pulley Kit, "Tom's Tune", Steeda Short Throw Shifter. MSD Coil and Wires, Steeda Strut Tower Brace, Clutch Masters Stage III, Kent Alloy Exhaust Cam Gear, Borla Exhaust, Quaife Diff, Fidanza Flywheel, Denso Spark Plugs.

The "Show":
TYC Altezza Tail Lights, Steeda Emblems, Euro Grill, RT Brake Caliper Lacquer Blue
bushmasterguy is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 01-24-2006, 04:36 PM   #2
Toolman00
Focus Fanatic
 
Toolman00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Fan#: 2744
Location: Sheboygan, WI
What I Drive: 2000 Ford Expedition XLT 4x4

Posts: 1,734
FF Reputation: 3 Toolman00 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (2)
I imagine that all you'd have to do is get a baseline, then change the setting on the cam gear, then dyno... repeat until you are satisfied.
__________________
Give the toughest job to the laziest man and he'll find the easiest way to get it done.
Toolman00 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2006, 04:49 PM   #3
crazymechanic
Focus Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Fan#: 12900
Location: Rockville, MD
What I Drive: 2003 SVT Focus

Posts: 1,643
FF Reputation: 1 crazymechanic Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (1)
^^^ yup, you gotta make a baseline run, then run a few more at different degree settings to find the best one
crazymechanic is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2006, 05:23 PM   #4
bushmasterguy
Focus Enthusiast
 
bushmasterguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Fan#: 16812
Location: South Texas
What I Drive: 2004 Ford Focus SVT - CD Silver

Posts: 125
FF Reputation: 1 bushmasterguy Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
I called Focus Central where I bought the Cam Gear and they told me the guy that has the Dyno does not know what he is talking about. IT is trial and error. Base Dyno, Adjust and Dyno again.

I talked to the guy again and explained this to him. I think he gets it now. Scary. I will definetly insist on looking over his shoulder If I use that place.
__________________
The "Go":
Focus Central 65mm TB, Steeda SRI, FC 2 PC Pulley Kit, "Tom's Tune", Steeda Short Throw Shifter. MSD Coil and Wires, Steeda Strut Tower Brace, Clutch Masters Stage III, Kent Alloy Exhaust Cam Gear, Borla Exhaust, Quaife Diff, Fidanza Flywheel, Denso Spark Plugs.

The "Show":
TYC Altezza Tail Lights, Steeda Emblems, Euro Grill, RT Brake Caliper Lacquer Blue
bushmasterguy is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2006, 05:30 PM   #5
WD40
The Librarian
 
WD40's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Fan#: 5157
Location: Helena, MT
What I Drive: '04 Sonic Blue - SVT 3Door

Posts: 13,116
FF Reputation: 138 WD40 Excellent Standing MemberWD40 Excellent Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
Run away!!!
Well, it does sound like you got them set straight.
Maybe the dyno shop just wanted to know what to set the gear at initially?

They should set it straight up (0) for the baseline run, and go from there.
IIRC, somewhere between -3 and -5 seems to be the setting where most folks end up,
but you probably need to hear that from someone that's actually had it done.


EDIT:
BTW, I thought Focus Central was out of business.
You actually talked to someone from there?
WD40 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2006, 05:35 PM   #6
bushmasterguy
Focus Enthusiast
 
bushmasterguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Fan#: 16812
Location: South Texas
What I Drive: 2004 Ford Focus SVT - CD Silver

Posts: 125
FF Reputation: 1 bushmasterguy Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (0)
After I talked to the Dyno guy again he did say we should take it 2 degrees one direction and if that was working we would take it 2 degrees again in the same direction. The Opposite if we were loosing Hp/Tq.

I bet we run anywhere from 3 to 5 dynos. There cost is $85 a dyno but I am sure I can work out something if we are going to run multiple dynos.

And yes Focus Central is still in business. http://www.focus-central.com/main.asp
__________________
The "Go":
Focus Central 65mm TB, Steeda SRI, FC 2 PC Pulley Kit, "Tom's Tune", Steeda Short Throw Shifter. MSD Coil and Wires, Steeda Strut Tower Brace, Clutch Masters Stage III, Kent Alloy Exhaust Cam Gear, Borla Exhaust, Quaife Diff, Fidanza Flywheel, Denso Spark Plugs.

The "Show":
TYC Altezza Tail Lights, Steeda Emblems, Euro Grill, RT Brake Caliper Lacquer Blue

Last edited by bushmasterguy; 01-24-2006 at 05:44 PM.
bushmasterguy is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2006, 09:10 PM   #7
myblacksvt
Focus Enthusiast
 
myblacksvt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Fan#: 6660
Location: roasting tires all over the east coast, Afghanistan
What I Drive: 2003 Honda S2000 / 1990 honda civic

Posts: 255
FF Reputation: 1 myblacksvt Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (3)
i would seriously not go to that guy. hes operation the dyno and doesnt even know the basics of tuning. scary
__________________
Life is a garden, dig it!

turbo/VTEC
myblacksvt is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-24-2006, 09:10 PM   #8
crazymechanic
Focus Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Fan#: 12900
Location: Rockville, MD
What I Drive: 2003 SVT Focus

Posts: 1,643
FF Reputation: 1 crazymechanic Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (1)
$85 per run?!?! that's disgusting...there's a place about 1.5 hours from me that gives you two runs for $55, 3 runs for $80, or two runs with air/fuel ratio for $80 (or something like that)
crazymechanic is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 06:41 PM   #9
Toolman00
Focus Fanatic
 
Toolman00's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Fan#: 2744
Location: Sheboygan, WI
What I Drive: 2000 Ford Expedition XLT 4x4

Posts: 1,734
FF Reputation: 3 Toolman00 Good Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (2)
Quote:
After I talked to the Dyno guy again he did say we should take it 2 degrees one direction and if that was working we would take it 2 degrees again in the same direction. The Opposite if we were loosing Hp/Tq.
That's the way I understand it too.

Quote:
I bet we run anywhere from 3 to 5 dynos. There cost is $85 a dyno but I am sure I can work out something if we are going to run multiple dynos.
$85/run is VERY expensive! Ask if he has an hourly rate. It really wouldn't take much to tune a gear. Not too sure what the going rate is per hour, but IIRC, some guys in WI rented a dyno for $75/hour.
__________________
Give the toughest job to the laziest man and he'll find the easiest way to get it done.
Toolman00 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Old 01-26-2006, 08:04 PM   #10
Svtzx555
Focus Fanatic
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Fan#: 27739
Location: Mobile, United States
What I Drive: '06 silver ST

Posts: 3,174
FF Reputation: 11 Svtzx555 Great Standing Member
Buy-Sell-Trade Rating: (4)
I think maybe he meant $85 per hour. Our local dyno charges $100 per hour, then and additional $45 per hour for tuning stuff like that.
__________________
Gumpcrew#7

Quote:
Originally Posted by the_07ninja View Post
Svtzx555-3 to Sn4ckm4st3r-1
Quote:
Originally Posted by TnFocus View Post
Yea, I'll go .080 over on his face.
Svtzx555 is offline  
    Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks & Social Networks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:00 PM.


Copyright 2002-2014 FocusFanatics.com. All Rights Reserved : Terms of Use : Privacy Policy : Advertise Information : Site Map

Focus Fanatics Ford Focus Forum offers many fun ways for you to engage with other Ford Focus Owners from across the world. Whether it be about the aftermarket performance modifications, technical how-to's, European tuned suspension or awesome fuel economy similar to the Acura TLX or Fiesta ST. You can find all Ford Focus and Focus ST related information here. Join our Ford Focus discussion forums and chat with local Focus enthusiasts in your area.