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Old 12-06-2014, 10:35 PM   #1
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2006 V6 Mustang project

My best friend bought a wrecked V6 Mustang a while back. He rebuilt it and uses it as his daily driver. He's put quite a bit of money into it by this point. He has decided he wants to look at turbos/superchargers and possible an engine/transmission swap. He's talked about buying another wrecked Mustang for parts. It's going to be a summer 15/16 project for us to take on.

Anybody here have experience with that kind of thing? Anything to recommend? Where do we start with such a project?

My personal thought is that he should've bought a GT in the first place. But that's just me.


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Old 12-06-2014, 10:59 PM   #2
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Deffinetly gt. to much to swap
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Old 12-07-2014, 08:21 PM   #3
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The S197 is not an easy car to swap a V8 into. The V6 car has quite a few differences (brakes, electronics, suspension...the list goes on). The only way to do it is buy a wrecked GT and move everything between the two cars--which is pretty silly to do when you can buy them for under $10k now.

The V6 can be supercharged but again...you'll spend as much doing that as simply upgrading to a GT.

I'm not a fan of the 4.0 V6. It's a workhorse but a lackluster one. That said, there was a guy at one of my track events who ran his on the road course and did pretty well with it. He had me fooled into thinking it was a 4.6.

Smart decision is to buy a faster car if you want to go faster. You'll never get your money out of a modded car, especially a modded V6 Mustang.
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Old 12-07-2014, 11:48 PM   #4
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The S197 is not an easy car to swap a V8 into. The V6 car has quite a few differences (brakes, electronics, suspension...the list goes on). The only way to do it is buy a wrecked GT and move everything between the two cars--which is pretty silly to do when you can buy them for under $10k now.

The V6 can be supercharged but again...you'll spend as much doing that as simply upgrading to a GT.

I'm not a fan of the 4.0 V6. It's a workhorse but a lackluster one. That said, there was a guy at one of my track events who ran his on the road course and did pretty well with it. He had me fooled into thinking it was a 4.6.

Smart decision is to buy a faster car if you want to go faster. You'll never get your money out of a modded car, especially a modded V6 Mustang.
actually its quite simple to do. been done many times on s197's. and what you save (5-7k) on buying the six over the 8, a vortek(or was it paxton, i forget) costs 5 and pumps a 6 to 475hp.
earlier v6 4.0 isnt worth modding. major money pits to get any power out of
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Old 12-08-2014, 12:40 AM   #5
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The S197 is not an easy car to swap a V8 into. The V6 car has quite a few differences (brakes, electronics, suspension...the list goes on). The only way to do it is buy a wrecked GT and move everything between the two cars--which is pretty silly to do when you can buy them for under $10k now.

The V6 can be supercharged but again...you'll spend as much doing that as simply upgrading to a GT.

I'm not a fan of the 4.0 V6. It's a workhorse but a lackluster one. That said, there was a guy at one of my track events who ran his on the road course and did pretty well with it. He had me fooled into thinking it was a 4.6.

Smart decision is to buy a faster car if you want to go faster. You'll never get your money out of a modded car, especially a modded V6 Mustang.
S197 is most certainly an easy car to swap engines. I've seen someone put a 427 Windsor into a 2011 V6, with minimal modifications to the engine bay.
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Old 12-08-2014, 07:47 PM   #6
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I understood (maybe incorrectly) that the intent was to put a 4.6 in where the 4.0 resided. This requires all the 4.6 electronics. Sure, there's plenty of room int he engine bay to swap in anything but how will you get it to pass emissions on a OBD-II car?

I will stand by the assertion that it is less expensive in the long run to simply buy the faster car. A $5000 supercharger kit is a lot of cash...money that you will never see when it's time to sell the car. I've priced numerous V6 Mustangs at around $5k and have found several GT's for five grand more. Instant performance, no work and a minimal hit at resale.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:30 PM   #7
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Frankly... i woudn't bother.

My father has an 02 v6 (convertable, atx). He put headers (after the manifold cracked) an exhaust, and an intake on that thing (roughly $1500 spent), and it still couldnt keep up with my stock 2000 zx3 (straight line or turns).

You have quite a few things going against you:

1. live rear-axle. It's only decent for drag racing. Everywhere else: its crap.

2. its HEAVY. were talking about 3200lbs+ depending on model.

3. It's still classified as a "sports car" by most insurance agencies. It's about double the cost of my newer, faster, nicer, lower-miles wrx.

4. the resale is terrible. - those model mustangs are already pretty cheap.. your friend modding one is hurting his chances of being able to sell it later on.


His best bet is to sell the mustang and get himself into something newer and faster.
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Old 12-12-2014, 03:57 PM   #8
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Thanks for the input guys!
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Old 12-13-2014, 08:41 AM   #9
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Don't bother.
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Old 12-14-2014, 02:09 PM   #10
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First off, I would lurk on a Mustang forum- much better info than has been posted here.

The s197 chassis is great. It can turn. Dont let anyone tell you that it cant. Starting with a V6 car means upgrades from the GT are cheap and readily available (8.8 rear, beefier front brakes etc).

The 4.0 is a bit of a turd in stock form but look into a single turbo setup for it. Modular Motorsports Racing sells forged internals if you need them. Available kits/ DIY stuff is better asked on a mustang forum

it sounds like 1. it was a wrecked car 2. hes already sunk a lot into it. So resale will be nothing either way. As long as he's building it and having fun thats what matters. Hell, the depreciation you get hit with on a new car could be better spent on building this one
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