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View Poll Results: How much are you willing to pay for the MK2 Ford Focus ST?
$15,000-$17,000 186 6.20%
$17,001-$20,000 256 8.53%
$20,001-$23,000 963 32.10%
$23,001-$26,000 913 30.43%
$26,001-$29,000 218 7.27%
$29,001-$32,000 155 5.17%
$32,001-$35,000 81 2.70%
$35,001-$38,000 56 1.87%
Would not buy it 172 5.73%
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Old 12-27-2005, 04:32 PM   #171
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And there is your harsh reality of the American market for this car. It's pretty clear from this simple poll (of people who could be considered more enthusiastic about the Focus than the general population, no less) that very few people would be willing to pay the price that would realistically be charged for the Focus ST.
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Old 12-27-2005, 11:56 PM   #172
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people who are throwing out these low ball figures either have no idea what the C1 chassis focus ST is or are just retarded. someone should just delete this thread


No kidding...some of them are saying less than the SVTF. Maybe they'd like it if Ford also included AWD at no extra charge as well, and made the car available for less than $15,000.
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Old 12-28-2005, 08:23 PM   #173
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No kidding...some of them are saying less than the SVTF. Maybe they'd like it if Ford also included AWD at no extra charge as well, and made the car available for less than $15,000.
If they could put together a powerful turbo motor and throw in a strong awd drivetrain and price it signi[:)][:)][:)]antly less than the srt or the sti I think ford would definatly have a winner.

And yea bring that price down there for the right price ford couldn't make enough of them.
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Old 12-28-2005, 08:51 PM   #174
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or make any money off any of them . . .
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Old 12-28-2005, 08:56 PM   #175
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If they make a little of each car and sell a lot of them it adds up to a lot of money. But they'd also have to make the most of them automatics and then maybee a 5-6 speed option.

I personaly don't understand why Ford or GM can't make a better car than the imports and sell it for a lot less and comand the market again.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:06 AM   #176
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If they could put together a powerful turbo motor and throw in a strong awd drivetrain and price it signi[:)][:)][:)]antly less than the srt or the sti I think ford would definatly have a winner.

And yea bring that price down there for the right price ford couldn't make enough of them.
And would you like free gas for a year and a 10 year/200,000 mile warranty with that?

Seriously...the C1 platform ST is like having a Volvo S40 I-5 turbo with a lot more punch...less emphasis on luxury and more on performance. If they brought it here, it would be worth about $32,000-$36,000 depending on options, and it would easily destroy the other domestic FI compacts (SRT-4 and Cobalt SS.)

Its a bit absurd to think that they could make a turbo sport compact with a built motor and an AWD drivetrain, and price it for less than $22,000. The only way you'd even come close to a factory FI Focus for that much here in the 'states is if they started slapping low-boost superchargers on base model Foci with a half-assed tune. I mean, hell, the current NA market "ST" is little more than an '03/'04 PZEV Focus, minus one of the cats with SVT springs and rear disc brakes, and they're charging over $17,000 (MSRP) for that. You have to be insane if you think Ford could make a car with a turbo and AWD and hope to sell it at a profit for anything less than $25,000.

But this is all pretty much useless...like I stated earlier, the best Focus we'll ever see here has already come and gone in the SVT. I wouldn't be surprised if in another five years the Focus is completely phased out and replaced with the European Fiesta (or a new Euro compact if they come out with one), albeit heavily stripped down.
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:36 PM   #177
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Dodge didnt seem to have problems making cars with this kind of power for under $20k (SRT-4).
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Old 12-29-2005, 12:57 PM   #178
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Yeah, and Dodge sacrificed a lot of build quality on the interior, suspension tuning, and is running on an age-old platform just to put a PT Cruiser inline-4 with a turbo in the SRT-4. I don't want a Focus built like an SRT-4. I'll gladly pay the extra $3-5k premium if it means I get a car that's all-around good at performance driving.
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Old 12-29-2005, 06:26 PM   #179
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I think that car for low 20's would sell I'd rather have that than a Beetle turbo.

Basicly I'm saying if american cars are going to stay around there going to have to offer more for less....After buying a mexican built ford lets say I'm probably going to buy a toyota next time if not a subaru
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Ford thinks there is no market for a performance sport compact in the US, and (as I've stated before) they would gladly go out of business to protect the Mustang before they'd bring a car like the MkII ST to the US market. Plus to their way of thinking, anyone who is going to spend over $30,000 on a car will either buy their coveted Mustang, or go elsewhere.

I've come to the same conclusion. Unless Ford makes a radical 180, I'm going with Subaru, Volvo or Mazda for my next vehicle purchase. I like the Focus, but I'm sick of seeing every other auto maker deliver what people want while Ford uses the Focus as a discount economy model.
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