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Old 09-12-2003, 02:19 AM   #1
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Warranty

I was looking at the Morrison-Moss warranty act (forgot the exact name of it) but yeah , yes it does state that if that part cannot be proven to cause the defect they cannot void the warranty.

But it also says you can not modify it if the warranty says you can't.

So I looked at my warranty book and it states

WHAT IS NOT COVERED?
"DAMAGE CAUSE BY ALTERING OR MODIFYING THE VEHICLE, INCLUDING THE BODY CHASSIS OR COMPONENTS- AFTER THE VEHICLE LEAVES FORD'S CONTROL"

"DAMAGE CAUSE BY NON-FORD PARTS INSTALLED AFTER THE CAR LEAVES FORD'S CONTROL, FOR EXAMPLE BUT NOT LIMITED TO CELLULAR PHONES, ALARM SYSTEMS AND AUTOMATIC STARTING DEVICES AND PEFORMANCE ENHANCING POWERTRAIN CHIPS"

"DRIVING HTROUGH WATER DEEP ENOUGH TO CAUSE WATER TO BE INGESTED INTO THE ENGINE"

"damage caused by misusing the vehivle ......racing"


So this means we can mod our cars with no problems.



The only problem we will run into is people with AEm CAI intakes and The BOMZ CAI, because the filters are barely off the floor.


Oh yeah and for you people like me that do all your own work on your car for maintanence (dam its late sorry proly mis-spelled that)

Your warranty can be voided for improper maintanence, they cannot deny you warranty coverage simply for lack of reciepts. Which makes no sense becuase that means they have no power even if your car is treated like crap with out an oil change and stuff i guess, unless you they will take the entire engine apart and taking parts to court.



So for anyone who gets turned away at the dealer for your mods go ahead and take your little warranty book in and show them what ford itself prints.


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Old 09-12-2003, 04:21 AM   #2
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DAMAGE CAUSE BY NON-FORD PARTS INSTALLED AFTER THE CAR LEAVES FORD'S CONTROL, FOR EXAMPLE BUT NOT LIMITED TO CELLULAR PHONES, ALARM SYSTEMS AND AUTOMATIC STARTING DEVICES AND PEFORMANCE ENHANCING POWERTRAIN CHIPS"


read.." not limited to" in the above statement.... they can void the warrentee for anything they want, and I don't blame them in this sue happy sociaty They made the car as it is, and it is unreasonable to have them fix it for a problem not caused by them. All that does is make cars more expensive for the rest of us.
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Old 09-12-2003, 04:48 AM   #3
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dude Vanace your tottaly wrong. theres laws against them voiding warranties because somone "Makes modifications that iprove the performance of the vehicle." check out the law he sights at the top of the page. If your gonna state somthin at least know what your talking about.
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i agree with Vanace; Ford designed the car to work with some components it designed because it beleived they will work in harmony together to produce a certain amount of power, performance...etc without damaging, on the short term, any part!
now, if you go and modify some parts that will directly affect the functioning of your engine, and that some part breaks because of that, you can't expect Ford to fix it for you.
the bottom line is, if a modded component is the cause of a damage, Ford, by law, isn't required to service your car under warranty
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Old 09-12-2003, 10:17 AM   #5
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that's the whole point, they have to show you that the aftermarket part caused the problem. They can't void your entire warranty for an intake. If they can show that the intake ingested water and that caused the malfunction then of course it isn't covered, but if your ball joints go bad, and you have an intake, they can't void your warranty because of that. No, don't expect that Ford will replace your struts if you put lowering springs on your car, but do expect them to fix problems that stem from valid problems with the car that are not caused by aftermarket items. Simplest case for this is when people replace a head unit in their car, would it make sense for Ford to void the warranty because someone wants better sound quality, no, however, if someone is driving retarded amounts of power off just the battery without a cap, then yeah ford probably isn't going to pay for the alternator, or the new battery.
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My dad was a service writer at a Ford dealer.. this dude comes in with a mustang cobra with a broken crank. They replaced the engine. Came in again a couple months later with a broken crank again. They wouldn't change the engine under warrentee again because it had UDP's. Ford power parts selll UDP's. Did the UDP's cause the crank to break? Who is to say? (4.6 cranks are almost impossible to break). Ford's statement in the warrentee section is a catch all cover there ass statement that if they want to void the warrentee, you will be in for a fight. Who has more money?
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just reinstall ur stock parts and go back "uhh, i don't know why it broke!!!". Naturally that's only if you can, like a TB, UDP or whatever, but it'd work.
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My dad was a service writer at a Ford dealer.. this dude comes in with a mustang cobra with a broken crank. They replaced the engine. Came in again a couple months later with a broken crank again. They wouldn't change the engine under warrentee again because it had UDP's. Ford power parts selll UDP's. Did the UDP's cause the crank to break? Who is to say? (4.6 cranks are almost impossible to break). Ford's statement in the warrentee section is a catch all cover there ass statement that if they want to void the warrentee, you will be in for a fight. Who has more money?
This is a load of bull, since the M-M act makes it illegal for Warrantor's to use catch all statements to this effect. Unless specifically noted, and proven your warranty cannot be voided. Reason for the M-M act is exactly as you said Vanace, who has more money? Ford, the M-M act is to protect the consumer from having to go through long-winded legal battles that would otherwise turn out always in the Warrantor's favor. As far as the guy who didn't get his engine replaced, he let it go too early. I'd have made the service department show my why it was the crank, and if they didn't and still refused service, I'd have written to corporate. Corporate legal understands the ramifications of the M-M act and exactly what they can and cannot void a warranty for.
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Um i dont know what year the cobra was but at some point on the modular motors the cobra motor were already underdriven from the factory so a UDP was 1) a pointless mod for the guy. 2) No reason for the car to get turned away.
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But on the other hand... if people didn't do stupid things like break there car, then put on stock parts just to get a free repair, cars would cost every one less, and maybe manufacturers would be more honest?
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