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Old 05-08-2014, 07:35 PM   #1
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Need help, front end issue 2010 Focus SE

2010 Focus SE Sedan, 70,000 miles.

I have a scrapping or a suspension noise that occurs on hard left turns when the car kind of dives to the passenger side. It sounds and feels like it is coming from the front passenger side. I thought it might be a bad strut or spring. I have also occasionally heard a similar scrapping/squeaking on front end dives in dips doing about 30+MPH. I have bounce tested the front passenger end and get absolutely no sound. Problem is this noise does not happen all the time. I took it into the Ford dealer and explained all the above and they told me they could find nothing broken, loose, shiny metal or anything wrong. However two days after taking it in and paying $80 for a diagnostic, I heard the scrapping/squeaking noise again on a hard left turn. Anybody have any ideas what the problem could be? I sure would appreciate any info.


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Old 05-08-2014, 08:11 PM   #2
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Maybe this?

TSB
10-8-5 CLICK/POP NOISE FROM FRONT END WHILE TURNING OR GOING OVER BUMPS

Publication Date: April 27, 2010

FORD: 2008-2010 Focus


This article supersedes TSB 09-18-2 to update the Service Procedure, Service Labor Time Standards and Part List.

ISSUE:
Some 2008-2010 Focus vehicles may exhibit a click/pop type noise from the front end while turning and/or driving over bumps, or a creak/squeak noise from front when driving over bumps. The noise may be isolated to front stabilizer bar end links, front upper strut bearing area, and/or lower control arm.

ACTION:
Follow the service procedure to correct the condition.

SERVICE PROCEDURE
Install Chassis Ear JSP97202 in the Rotunda Technician Tool Program or equivalent to identify and isolate the source of the noise.
Drive the vehicle over moderate bumps and perform left and right turns.
If a click/pop noise is coming from front stabilizer bar end link(s), proceed to Step 3.
If a click/pop noise is from upper strut bearing area, go to Step 4.
If a creak/squeak type noise is coming from a lower control arm, go to Step 5.
Front stabilizer bar end link click/pop noise.
Is vehicle built on or before 1/11/2010?
Yes - remove and install four (4) revised stabilizer bar end link nuts per Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 204-01; torque to 46 lb-ft (63 N-m).
No - replace affected stabilizer bar end link(s) per WSM, Section 204-01; torque nuts to 46 lb-ft (63 N-m).
Upper strut bearing click/pop noise.
Is vehicle built on or between 10/01/2007 and 10/31/2007?
Yes - replace upper strut bearing per WSM, Section 204-01; torque nuts to 30 lb-ft (40 N-m).
No - proceed to Step 3b.
Is vehicle built on or before 11/30/2008?
Yes - inspect the three (3) upper strut mount nuts for signs of looseness. Torque nuts to 30 lb-ft (40 N-m).
No - replace suspect strut per WSM, Section 204-01; torque upper nuts to 30 lb-ft (40 N-m).
Lower control arm creak/squeak noise.
Replace the affected lower control arm per WSM, Section 204-01.

PART NUMBER PART NAME
9S4Z-3078-A Lower Control Arm - Right Hand
9S4Z-3079-A Lower Control Arm - Left Hand
9S4Z-18124-C Front Strut - Right Hand, w/ Rear Stabilizer Bar
9S4Z-18124-E Front Strut - Right Hand, w/o Rear Stabilizer Bar
9S4Z-18124-D Front Strut - Left Hand, w/ Rear Stabilizer Bar
9S4Z-18124-F Front Strut - Left Hand, w/o Rear Stabilizer Bar
8S4Z-18198-A Strut Bearing
AS4Z-5K484-AA Front Stabilizer Bar End Link
W-713760-S440 Nut - Stabilizer Bar Link


WARRANTY STATUS:
Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part.

OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME
100805A 2008-2010 Focus: Includes Diagnosing With Chassis Ears And Road Test, Labor Operation Should Be Claimed With B, C, D, E, F Or G (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 0.8 Hr.
100805B 2008-2010 Focus: Replace Four (4) Stabilizer Bar End Link Nuts Or Stabilizer Bar End Links, Labor Operation Can Be Claimed With A, C, D, E, F And G (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 0.2 Hr.
100805C 2008-2010 Focus: Replace One (1) Upper Strut Bearing Or Strut Assembly, Labor Operation Can Be Claimed With A, B, E, F, And G (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 0.5 Hr.
100805D 2008-2010 Focus: Replace Both (2) Sides Upper Strut Bearings Or Strut Assemblies, Labor Operation Can Be Claimed With A, B, F And G (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 0.8 Hr.
100805E 2008-2010 Focus: Tighten Both (2) Sides Upper Strut Bearing Retainers, Labor Operation Can Be Claimed With A, B, F And G (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 0.1 Hr.
100805F 2008-2010 Focus: Replace One (1) Lower Control Arm, Labor Operation Can Be Claimed With A, B, C, D And E (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 0.3 Hr.
100805G 2008-2010 Focus: Replace Both (2) Sides Lower Control Arms, Labor Operation Can Be Claimed With A, B, C, D, E And F (Do Not Use With Any Labor Operations Outside Of This Article) 0.4 Hr.


DEALER CODING
BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE
3B438 24
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For everything that goes wrong on a modern car there are at least 5 things that can cause it.

Could be...

1. Wore out sway bar link.
2. Wheel well plastic shielding is loose.
3. Wore lower control arm bushings
4. Tie rod end
5. Ball joint
6. CV joint with split boot, lack of grease.
7. One of those things that makes for good stories that you would never suspect.


Well, since I have at least 5 things listed I would say it is covered. Good luck. Check these yourself. Check the tie rod ends and ball joint with the front suspension pre-loaded, not at full hang.

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P.S Could be sway bar bushing or maybe even brake related. Someone who works on cars all the time, for a long time, who knows all of the sounds could get you a LOT closer. If you know someone like that take them for a ride.
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Old 05-08-2014, 09:35 PM   #4
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Moved to "Brakes, Suspension & Chassis".

Steve covered it pretty well, might have to live with it indefinitely until it becomes more of an issue & easier to trace.
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Thanks for the info guys. It's not really a click or pop. I honestly think it's strut related although as I stated before I cannot get any sound by doing a bounce test on the front end. Don't think it's wheel well shield, that is not loose.

I have no shimmy, alignment is fine according Ford dealer. I'll take in back to Ford and go over these suggestions with them. Seems that if they checked out the front end like they told me, some of these problems would be kind of easy to spot.
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:15 AM   #6
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It's probably the sway bar bushings. Grease those (cheap fix) and report back.
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It's probably the sway bar bushings. Grease those (cheap fix) and report back.
Well, got the sway bar links replaced and as I was sitting in the Ford dealership waiting for my car to be finished, in walks the service writer to tell me that the driver side strut needs to be replaced as well. As he was giving me the bad news (pricewise) he tells me they have to order the strut and I need to leave the car. Next day I get a call at work from service and am told they did not replace the strut, just greased the bushings and everything was fine. Got in the car and about a half mile down the road I made a left turn in a dip and yep, the noise was still there as loud as ever.

So, any idea what else it could be. Could the strut really be bad and the mechanic just didn't want to fool with it? The only time I hear the noise is on hard left turns or in roadway dips.
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