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Old 04-30-2014, 12:13 PM   #1
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What alignment settings have helped good tire mileage?

I have been doing 10th Anniversary maintenance updates on my 2004 SVT and asked in another thread for advice about tire alignment that promotes good tire mileage. No answers with settings advice were received.

I have about 87k miles on my Focus and this is the 4th set of tires. All the previous tires were replaced due to inside of the tires being worn out by the rear camber or toe in alignment settings.

Has anyone had a set of tires that wore evenly until they wore out, not worn out on the inner edge? If yes, what are your camber and toe in and toe out settings for the front and rear on the car?

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Old 04-30-2014, 01:06 PM   #2
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Have you done rotation because I never had those problems did you also check front end
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Most tire shops, even when you say "ITS AN SVT" will align it to regular focus specs, which are much more loose than the SVTs specs. So far, being 2" lower with no camber adjustment and 0!!!!! toe front and rear, no inside edge wear. Tell them you want 0.00 front and rear. As for print out verification, or watch the tech and give him greenback "incentive".

NOTE: the car will "dance" more in the lane following ruts and grooves with these settings, so be forewarned.
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Rotation has been done and the inside of the tires is all that has been wearing out. Lots of tread on the middle to outer part when the inside is worn down smooth. I have gotten sick of the tires being worn out so soon. I have been doing the updates to refresh the running gear and have changed the struts, shocks, some of the bushings and have had the alignment checked. The RR tire has 2 degrees of camber, the LR is at 1 degree and the toe in is unknown at present and will be set again soon as I am going to change the upper and lower rear links. I changed the front already.

I am hoping to see suggested numerical settings....
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Old 04-30-2014, 04:18 PM   #5
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In my reading, I have seen 1/8" max combined toe in the front and as close to 0 as possible in the rear. Don't know where I saw it, but I have it written down on my 'to do' list for the new to us SVT.
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Nitto NeoGen ties are made for a little extra camber wear and are also an excellent all season.
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Mine shredded the inner tire edges too.

When I rebuilt the suspension I yanked every single bushing and put the full Prothane kit in. Since then I keep it to 0.0 toe all around. I always have to talk to a manager as it is outside the factory specs. But I have even tire wear now and I can predictably slide the rear around turns when I want.

With zero toe all around the car get much more neutral in turns, more fun!

A caution on running 0 toe in the rear though:

From all my research prior to the prothane kit install, I was under the impression that going 0.0 toe all around is a bad move with stock rubber bushings as they have more flex under loading. So if you statically set zero toe in the rear with rubber bushings you are risking some toe out in the rear under high cornering loads as the rubber bushings flex. toe out is going to give you some unstable rear squirelly-ness, and tendency to over rotate the rear end on high loading.

Something to think about, perhaps someone here may have tried zero toe in the rear with stock rubber bushings and can chime in with impressions?
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IMHO if u have the options of all alignment options camber toe and caster and take it to a good shop they should set everything to 0 on the machine if your reading 0 then your alignment is perfect if it doesn't then your not good. They give tolerances so the tec can do an alignment at a reasonable time but if u tell the alignment shop u want everything perfect they should do it. I have done alignments brought all measurements perfect and never had issues on wear with a proper rotation of tires.
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In my reading, I have seen 1/8" max combined toe in the front and as close to 0 as possible in the rear. Don't know where I saw it, but I have it written down on my 'to do' list for the new to us SVT.
FWIW - This is exactly reversed front to rear. Up front is where you want Zero, as it toes in slightly as the wheels drive the car. Rear needs slight toe for a street setting.
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Old 05-02-2014, 08:45 PM   #10
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In one forum I was reading I saw suggestions for 0 to 0.04" toe out on front and 0 to 0.02" toe in on rear. What was never said was what tire wear was like.

I was worried about tire wear and camber but it seems toe in is more of a tire eater that camber, from what I have been reading.

So, I have been asking for comments from drivers who actually had even tire wear during the life of the tires. My target camber setting is 1 degree of camber, I think. Toe in and out are what I am needing advice about along with tire wear to allow my new tires to last more than 20 k miles and have the inside bald as can be and the outside half tread or more. Been there, seen that and don't want a repeat.

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