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Old 04-13-2014, 12:56 AM   #51
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OK How many ways do I have to say I am WRONG?
After all, no one has any idea what temp is really 'best' it iis all just a hodge podge of theory anyway.
So i ask you all to excuse my blundering into your little set of posts and blaspheming.
I really now how hard it is to just get over some flaws in others. So i beg you all again to forgive me and let it go.. Maybe you NEED cooler thermostats ..
I would not know..
I am ony a little porpoise in a big tank...
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Old 04-13-2014, 01:07 AM   #52
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Really because it seems to me like you were just fishing for a fight. From your first post on here you made it out like you knew exactly what you were talking about. Then when you were asked what negative effects it would have on the car you never gave a single NEGATIVE effect.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:27 AM   #53
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When I had my 160 t-stat installed with the tune I never saw temps over 185f based off of the instrument gauge cluster. The car always stayed relatively cold, even on hot summer days.
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Old 04-13-2014, 02:32 AM   #54
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When I had my 160 t-stat installed with the tune I never saw temps over 185f based off of the instrument gauge cluster. The car always stayed relatively cold, even on hot summer days.
160* might be too much? How did u like it? I bet your car felt good tho with the engine running that cold. I dont think people should go under 180* on the focus.
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Old 04-13-2014, 08:58 AM   #55
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When I had my 160 t-stat installed with the tune I never saw temps over 185f based off of the instrument gauge cluster. The car always stayed relatively cold, even on hot summer days.
You must be talking about another type of vehicle because the gauge in the Mk3 is actually just an elaborate idiot light.

People are putting way too much thought into this and trying to over-analyze simple statements. If you want one then get one and install it-it's not going to cause enough of a benefit or harm to be hugely noticeable.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:06 AM   #56
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I'm just gonna take my thermostat out.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:13 AM   #57
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I'm just gonna take my thermostat out.
Bore out the core, keep the housing. Tune fans. Win all the races.
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It was in a camaro z28. The gauge was split into four segments 160f, 185, 205, and 225f (roughly). It was a drag car though and it helped keep the car cooler while in the staging lanes. We used to by pass the coolant hoses that ran through the throttle bodies as well. They were originally engineered for northern cars in fear that the blades would ice up in sub zero temps. However, by rerouting them out of the throttle body and just plugging them together. Guys were picking up a solid 5rwhp. I guys my point there is the engineers have to design some of this stuff with a broad market range in mind from vastly different climate zones. Florida and Texas routinely see temps 100+ for months out of the year.
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Old 04-13-2014, 09:25 AM   #59
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It was in a camaro z28. The gauge was split into four segments 160f, 185, 205, and 225f (roughly). It was a drag car though and it helped keep the car cooler while in the staging lanes. We used to by pass the coolant hoses that ran through the throttle bodies as well. They were originally engineered for northern cars in fear that the blades would ice up in sub zero temps. However, by rerouting them out of the throttle body and just plugging them together. Guys were picking up a solid 5rwhp. I guys my point there is the engineers have to design some of this stuff with a broad market range in mind from vastly different climate zones. Florida and Texas routinely see temps 100+ for months out of the year.
That makes a little more sense. 5rwhp on a (presumably) 300hp+ car kind of illustrates the concept I'm saying as well.

I'm serious when I say that it's not a horrible idea to swap thermostats. It just seems that some people may believe that this will do much more than it most likely will. I stand by the fact that this is a good idea for those that live in high-temperature areas more than those looking for tons of hp. It will help the keep timing from being pulled when it's hot out, giving you a better burn on your fuel.
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Adding the 180 deg thermostat isnt for racing , In my opinion its for anyone adding a tune and almost any mod to there engine

This started out as a serious questions , It was " questioned " and opinions were made not to use it now those are making lite of it and in my opinion it isnt funny , I answered all the questions and BS with good straight answers and from some one that has actually installed many and tested them vs all the others that have never even installed and tested a 180 thermostat in a Focus

I dont say things and answer things just to be typing things and to keep things stirred up , If you feel the need to " question " things thats great I invite it, there is questioning things then there is making comments like you actually know what your talking about yet you have never even installed a 180 deg thermostat and tested it , and you make comments turning others away from doing it by your opinions and " questioning " and it is clear you have no clue what your talking about

If your adding a tune and modding your car there is only upsides to adding a 180 deg thermostat, There is 5 pages of unsupported opinions and BS and one that has actually had a 180 deg thermostat and installed dozens of them and tuned many more , It works !

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