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Old 04-12-2014, 02:05 PM   #31
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Ok, technically it warms up at exactly the same rate until 180*. That is definitely true. Then, in the winter, you accept that the heater will take longer to get warmer because your coolant is flowing and fans are already on, all while it's cold outside. It's not unbearable, it just takes longer to warm the cabin. For a race car it's less of a deal, but people that use it as a commuter or grocery-getter may want to know that info.
It will take no longer to get up to 180 deg then it did with the 192/196 thermostat , at 180 deg thermostat you will have more then enough heat through the heater as a 196 deg thermostat , the heater will take no longer to get hotter , before about 1998 all cars had a 180 deg thermostat , cars were not as tight and heaters were not as efficient as they are now AGAIN for those that missed it the first 2 times a 180 deg thermostat is still going to run in the 190 to 200 range with a proper tune , cabin heat up time and heat will be the same
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Carbon won't burn off as well, which is pertinent to those that drive DI powerplants. The car will run better during the summer because it won't need to retard timing as much when the outside temperature is high. AC may feel colder.
Only place the DI are showing carbon build up is in the intake runners , having a 250 deg thermostat wont cure this and a 180 deg wont make it worse , no effect on AC workings either thermostat
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I'm not saying that this is useless or will destroy your life. It's great for those that live in high temps and probably sucks for Canadians that get 10 months of winter. Is that so hard to accept?
It is very hard to accept information that isnt true , I have dozens if not hundreds of customers in the north country and Canada most park there cars for winter so thermostat isnt an issue , those that have the 180 deg thermostat it doesnt seem to effect the heater any in the cab because ( again ) the water temps of a 180 deg thermostat still runs in the 190 to 200 range

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Old 04-12-2014, 03:47 PM   #32
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Did some more reaserch on this issue and it seems like going to 10-15* lowrr wont make a big difference in winter times. Yes dyno u are right it takes longer after 180* but the real life differance is very small that most people will not notice. Maybe what I read is wrong too who knows.
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Did some more reaserch on this issue and it seems like going to 10-15* lowrr wont make a big difference in winter times. Yes dyno u are right it takes longer after 180* but the real life differance is very small that most people will not notice. Maybe what I read is wrong too who knows.
Actually like stated the 180 still runs in the 190 to 200Deg range so heat in the winter wont be an issue , you are correct on what your saying

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Old 04-12-2014, 04:03 PM   #35
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It will take no longer to get up to 180 deg then it did with the 192/196 thermostat , at 180 deg thermostat you will have more then enough heat through the heater as a 196 deg thermostat , the heater will take no longer to get hotter , before about 1998 all cars had a 180 deg thermostat , cars were not as tight and heaters were not as efficient as they are now AGAIN for those that missed it the first 2 times a 180 deg thermostat is still going to run in the 190 to 200 range with a proper tune , cabin heat up time and heat will be the same

Only place the DI are showing carbon build up is in the intake runners , having a 250 deg thermostat wont cure this and a 180 deg wont make it worse , no effect on AC workings either thermostat


It is very hard to accept information that isnt true , I have dozens if not hundreds of customers in the north country and Canada most park there cars for winter so thermostat isnt an issue , those that have the 180 deg thermostat it doesnt seem to effect the heater any in the cab because ( again ) the water temps of a 180 deg thermostat still runs in the 190 to 200 range

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Ok, if you want to tell people that it will take the same amount of time for coolant to reach 200 from a thermostat that is closed until 196 versus one that opens at 180 with the fans on then go ahead.
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Ok, if you want to tell people that it will take the same amount of time for coolant to reach 200 from a thermostat that is closed until 196 versus one that opens at 180 with the fans on then go ahead.
It will take longer but the difference is not as big as you think/are saying. Most ppl will not notice a difference bro.
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Ok, if you want to tell people that it will take the same amount of time for coolant to reach 200 from a thermostat that is closed until 196 versus one that opens at 180 with the fans on then go ahead.
Who said the fans are on ? What people did I tell that to ?

AGAIN THE 180 DEG THERMOSTAT STILL REACHES AND MAINTAINS 190-200 DEG TEMPERATURE

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I remember running a 160 degree thermostat in my camaro for years with no problems.
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If your car is a 'grocery getter' you definitely do NOT want to do this mod.
Nor if your driving is short hops.
Lots of racing around for longer periods.. plenty of full speed freeway driving. HOT Summers..Warm Winters..
Winter (snow) states and short hop driving with the lower thermostat will lead to all sorts of problems.
For some boy racers, the lower thermostat with a tune etc will be great. For everyone else.. skip this
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