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Old 04-12-2014, 11:08 AM   #21
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Yes, emissions is a large part of it as well. Don't forget to mention the increased warm-up times in the winter which leads to increased engine wear and increased times for the interior to reach a comfortable temperature. A large portion of wear on an engine throughout its life comes from pre-warmup driving.

As stated above, the main benefit for this is people that live in higher-temperature states to help keep the ECU from retarding timing; this results in a better overall fuel burn.
Increased warm up time ? The 180 doesnt take any longer to get up to temps then the 192 does if thats what you mean, Interior temps will warm up the same time

The 180 deg thermostat will still run in the 190-200 range which is MORE then enough to keep you toasty in side , In my opinion ALL states will benifit from the 180 and there would be no down side to it , for those in the Northern states the Fans can be set for a winter tune where they dont come on so soon if needed

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Old 04-12-2014, 11:34 AM   #23
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Warm up time should not change.
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180* T-Stat Question

So you're saying that the coolant starts flowing up to 16* sooner and that won't affect warm-up in the winter? Especially with the fans tuned to come on sooner? Compared to a 192-196* thermostat and stock fan engagement?

Insane. The internet is chock-full of information contrary to this. How does this even pass the logic test?
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Your amazing ! if the coolant starts to flow at 180 and he has a tune then it is warmed up and at warmed up temperature

I guess you missed this part "The 180 deg thermostat will still run in the 190-200 range" ?

It helps when you " question " things not to make it sound so condescending and make it like a question not like you know the answer , your not a tuner but act like you are , if you know software tuning you wouldnt be making comments like you know the answer when you dont , you can call it "questioning " I call it getting very old !


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I like my car to warm up fast so I switched to 0-20W Mobil-1 full synthetic.
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Warm up time should not change.
Agree !

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I like my car to warm up fast so I switched to 0-20W Mobil-1 full synthetic.
And you added a HEAT sticker for another 10 deg warmer inside

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Your amazing ! if the coolant starts to flow at 180 and he has a tune then it is warmed up and at warmed up temperature

I guess you missed this part "The 180 deg thermostat will still run in the 190-200 range" ?

It helps when you " question " things not to make it sound so condescending and make it like a question not like you know the answer , your not a tuner but act like you are , if you know software tuning you wouldnt be making comments like you know the answer when you dont , you can call it "questioning " I call it getting very old !


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Ok, technically it warms up at exactly the same rate until 180*. That is definitely true. Then, in the winter, you accept that the heater will take longer to get warmer because your coolant is flowing and fans are already on, all while it's cold outside. It's not unbearable, it just takes longer to warm the cabin. For a race car it's less of a deal, but people that use it as a commuter or grocery-getter may want to know that info.

Carbon won't burn off as well, which is pertinent to those that drive DI powerplants. The car will run better during the summer because it won't need to retard timing as much when the outside temperature is high. AC may feel colder.

I'm not saying that this is useless or will destroy your life. It's great for those that live in high temps and probably sucks for Canadians that get 10 months of winter. Is that so hard to accept?
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And you added a HEAT sticker for another 10 deg warmer inside

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