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Old 03-10-2014, 06:35 PM   #1
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Replace the egr valve w/ Massive's delete plate & no heat

I replaced the pcv hose & installed Massive's egr plate in place of the egr valve & now have no heat or defrost heat. The heater hose's are hot. Any ideas. I replaced the T going into the egr thru the head w/ a straight hose that came in the kit. Any ideas?


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Old 03-10-2014, 08:02 PM   #2
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Weird. My guess is there is still air in the heater cores. No idea how to bleed them other than driving around and waiting for it to purge itself.
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Weird. My guess is there is still air in the heater cores. No idea how to bleed them other than driving around and waiting for it to purge itself.
Thats what I was thinking too, but the heater hoses going in & out of the core are hot. Plus I let it run for a hr w/ the coolant cap off.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:16 PM   #4
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Shouldn't have affected that.
Heater core is always getting coolant, and the hot air control is a simple cable actuated flapper door.
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Could there still be air in the core so the coolant is still going thru the core but not really fully utilizing the heat transfer fins? ...dont know if thats makes sense. It does in my head. Haha.

or as elsolo suggests, it could just be a frustrating coincidence with another issue. Cars like to do that, ya know.
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Turn the heat on full blast and go for a drive.
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Turn the heat on full blast and go for a drive.
Thats what I did & its cold. The windshield is all fogged up even w/ the window down. Cool be there a air pocket, but I don't know how w/ the cap off & the motor idling for 1/2+ hr. Yea, I know the cooolant degas bottle is the highest point.
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Maybe when it's cold, open up the heater hose splice and see if air burps out, keep the expansion tank full while doing this. Basically just gravity bleed the core. I never paid attention to where those hoses terminate.

The only other thing I can imagine is the water feed that goes through the EGR is the high pressure side, and the two 5/8 hoses are otherwise at the same pressure and no flow will try and happen on their own. Just a big dead loop.

Hope it's just an air pocket that is being difficult to burp.
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Perhaps try flushing all the coolant out and putting new coolant in and burping the system. My guess would be air got into the system when you were installing the barb fitting.

Maybe your thermostat is stuck open?

I will be installing my egr delete this week and hope I dont run into this issue.
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Old 03-11-2014, 04:51 PM   #10
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Yeah, I talked to KDog about it and he hasn't had that issue but he also says it sounds like air in the system. Air in fluid can be tricky to get out sometimes I really think its that, especially since you told me you drove it that it didn't overheat except for once when it went up to 3/4 on the gauge and went back down after 60 seconds. It seems like air got caught on the thermostat and wouldn't open soon enough because of the air pocket. From all the symptoms it really seems like its just some pesky air.

Now if we could just figure out a good way to bleed it that ensures that ALL air is out of the system.
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