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Old 03-07-2014, 10:56 AM   #1
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Talking 5sp manual perfection!

i want you guy's opinion out there that have the 5 sp manual.

i currently have the 2012 sel 5 sp.

i have come to the conclusion that ford chose the the best possible gear ratio for our cars, to get the best possible "usable" power out of our 2.0.

The first time i noticed this, was then passing someone on the highway.

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cruising at 65 mph, if i want to pass, i'll drop it in 3rd, car lands in the perfect RPM range with enough revs left to pass ( 3rd runs out of room around 90 mph or so).


now this is what really impressed me with the focus gear ratio.

in the past i have owned , 2000 Toyota Celica GT ( 140hp 5spd) and 2000 Acura Integra (140hp 5sp) , so i will use those cars as examples:

if i tried to do the same downshift on those cars, "drop it in 3rd going 65 mph" the cars would land way too close to redline. (making the downshift useless the celica & integra 3rd gear would run out around 80 mph).

Cruising at 65 mph my only option was to shift down to 4th, which then the car would bog down, not enough power/revs.

Now to get the same kind of power for passing on highway speeds with those cars (celica & integra)
i would have to slow down to 55 mph, THEN drop it into 3rd, to get usable power out of the 3rd gear, which kind of made the 3rd useless, or frustrating to work with.

i want to know if anyone has had a similar experience, overall i am really impressed with the 5sp, i hear a lot of people complaining/wanting the 6spd, but me i'm perfectly satisfied with the usability of our 5spd.


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Old 03-07-2014, 10:57 AM   #2
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i find this makes the cars power more usable, and friendlier/safer for passing on highway.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:12 AM   #3
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I want 6th gear. If the gears were a bit shorter the car would probably be a bit faster. I do like the spacing on the gears tho.
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:19 AM   #4
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I want 6th gear. If the gears were a bit shorter the car would probably be a bit faster. I do like the spacing on the gears tho.
i agree that a 6th gear would be nice, but i was only trying to point out, that this is one of the best 5 spd i have ever used


on your second comment, i'm not so sure it would make it that much faster

Use the Integra GSR as an example 170hp car

GS-R run's 1/4 mile stock anywheres between 15.5s-16.0s and 0-60 in 7.1s
which is pretty much identical to our cars

the reason i mention this, the gsr, does have a closer gear ratio then our focus
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Old 03-07-2014, 11:25 AM   #5
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Somebody figured it out a long time ago that a 6th gear wouldn't be of any benefit to our cars. My question is; who downshifts while passing on the highway? There's plenty of usable power in 5th gear at 65mph and there's no reason to speed up while passing on the highway.
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where i live, there's a lot of highway, not freeway, (single lane passing)
a lot of twist and turns, last thing you want is to be spending time in the opposite lane
on a freeway (4 lane) i'll rarely if ever downshift, like you said plenty of power in the 5th for freeway use

I don't necessarily speed up
the main point of my original post, was to point out the usability of our 3rd gear is, and how i thought ford did a good job on the gear ratio
Just so you know i rarely if ever speed
but if i need to pass, i know that i have a more usable transmission for real driving situations.

it's not really safe to spend , 5-10 seconds in the opposite lane when trying to pass someone on a highway (NOT freeway)
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I see what you're saying now. We just call the 2 lane roads "roads". We don't really call our highways freeways because most of them aren't free. At least where I am.
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Somebody figured it out a long time ago that a 6th gear wouldn't be of any benefit to our cars. My question is; who downshifts while passing on the highway? There's plenty of usable power in 5th gear at 65mph and there's no reason to speed up while passing on the highway.
5th gear lacks immediate acceleration. If passing someone on the highway, however I usually stay in 5th or downshift to 4th to pass someone. Also traveling at 65mph in 3rd gear would get horrible mpg.
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5th gear lacks immediate acceleration. If passing someone on the highway, however I usually stay in 5th or downshift to 4th to pass someone. Also traveling at 65mph in 3rd gear would get horrible mpg.


again, sorry if i didn't explain myself properly, i don't cruise in 3rd gear
i'll be spending maybe 3-4 second's in 3rd gear, just long enough to pass, and get out of opposite traffic.
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I see what you're saying now. We just call the 2 lane roads "roads". We don't really call our highways freeways because most of them aren't free. At least where I am.
haha yeah thats what we call it here in Canada, well at least on the east coast ( maritimes )
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