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Old 05-15-2014, 01:41 PM   #161
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I can buy a slightly used Mustang for easily under $25k.

Ok, back on topic. Sorry.
But you would still be driving a Rustang
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Old 05-15-2014, 01:46 PM   #162
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But you would still be driving a Rustang
mustang>focus>fiesta
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Old 05-15-2014, 03:20 PM   #163
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Apples, oranges ,and pears. This is about mk3 reaching 200whp. Comparing a 400hp v8 mustang to a focus or fiesta is beside the point.
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:02 PM   #164
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I dont think so buddy. At least not the GTI. I had a Mk6 GTI and they make almost max torque just under 2200rpm and hold that torque for a bit so they are pretty fast off the line.
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Yep I always see people comparing GTI's against modded Focus or Fiesta ST. The GTI is not the fastest thing out there but it blows any Focus out of the water ST included. The 197 Fiesta ST is no match for an MK5 GTI nor an MK6. Being honest I'd be happy to see my car hang with Mazda 3's 2.5, BRZ, Veloster , Cruze Turbo
ST vs. 2015 GTI

The Focus wins 0-30mph, and top gear 30-50mph and 50-70mph tests - wouldn't that decide the "broad powerband" winner? In reality, 0-60 and 1/4 mile are both within 0.2 seconds, no one is blowing anyone out of the water. It's a driver's race.

edit: Check out the ST vs. 2012 GTI "blows any Focus out of the water ST included"? Really?
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:28 PM   #165
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Apples, oranges ,and pears. This is about mk3 reaching 200whp. Comparing a 400hp v8 mustang to a focus or fiesta is beside the point.
Yeah I get that, tell that to the guy mentioning a mustang.
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Old 05-15-2014, 04:46 PM   #166
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I'm sorry;I didn't bring up the Fiesta turbo which led to a Mustang comment and I ran with it so nobody was comparing a Mustang to a non turbo Focus and that's where we went off topic but I degress so move on since you guys aren't helping comparing factory turbo cars to each other.
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Old 05-15-2014, 11:01 PM   #167
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Yeah I get that, tell that to the guy mentioning a mustang.
Sorry wasn't trying to blame anyone. Just trying to get back on track.
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Old 05-17-2014, 06:27 AM   #168
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We need to have more members pushing the envelope with header trials to see where to go after that. I believe with air intake, tune, full exhaust (cat!), and a header these cars have 18x whp in them. I'm not sure how much a 180 t-stat would help but that would be a great before and after dyno test. Maybe 1-2 hp but hey every little hp helps when you're pushing for that magic 200. What would really be nice is to see an after market intake come out for the head. I'm not sure how good the factory unit is though, it's obviously made of a light weight composite material so that's a plus.
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