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Old 02-27-2014, 06:42 PM   #11
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Makes nice for removing whieght you don't do it for HP gain but you do UDP just like bsd. For responce
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Makes nice for removing whieght you don't do it for HP gain but you do UDP just like bsd. For reslonce
This^^^^^^^^^^
Just makes the motor rev quicker & freeier. You'd have to remove a lot of static lbs to equal out rotational lbs. Just to add, I had frpp's alloy driveshaft on my 5.0 & is so Lexus smooth & lot less rotational weight.
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Massive mentions needing a different size belt on their site, but don't specify what size for the different Motors it fits.

Underdrive WP pulley has to be larger, can't both spin slower & be the same size as someone mentioned...
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+sailor - must be larger, possibly within the tensioner's adjustment range though... Maybe? If with the stock pulley/belt, the tensioner isn't fully 'retracted' but in the middle of its range of motion...
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Makes nice for removing whieght you don't do it for HP gain but you do UDP just like bsd. For responce
This^^^^^^ For a quicker, freeier revving , more responsive motor + you'd have to remove a lot of static weight vs rotating weight. More then likey the udp's help make the alt. live longer too.
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Well straight from the horses mouth; just got off the phone with Massive again. They said you can use the stock belt however they said "what's the point if you don't run the crank pulley as well?" (which I am definitely not doing). They could have easily lied and said "yeah running the water pump pulley adds hp" but they told me straight up lol, so props there. Just thought I would give you an update but since you only paid $45 you didn't lose that much cash and weight is about the only benefit you can gain, the others are not there without the whole set. I am backing out of getting one. If you want a cheap mod that has been proven on the dyno run with some Autolite AR103 sparkplugs (see Duratec sparkplug thread). The difference was pretty dramatic for such a cheap mod and from Autolite out of all companies lol.
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Interesting that they would sell a "performance part" that yields no benefits whatsoever. Also I called them twice and they said that their tech guy was out until tomorrow which doesn't help that my mechanic is working on my car tonight. I emailed that guy of theirs and no response. I'm going to take my chances and see what happens. Worse case scenario is that nothing is gained. Also talked to my friend/the mechanic and he says the stock belt will definitely not work. He already had it apart and I trust his word as Fords are his expertise. Gonna get the next belt size up from advanced auto later today. Thanks for your response Yellow Hatch!
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Also, about the copper Autolite spark plugs, I did read that post but it was posted after I had recently already bought and installed NRG laser platinum plugs ($20 on Ebay). As soon as I hit 10,000 miles on these I'm swapping out for the motorcraft brand.
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Interesting that they would sell a "performance part" that yields no benefits whatsoever. Also I called them twice and they said that their tech guy was out until tomorrow which doesn't help that my mechanic is working on my car tonight. I emailed that guy of theirs and no response. I'm going to take my chances and see what happens. Worse case scenario is that nothing is gained. Also talked to my friend/the mechanic and he says the stock belt will definitely not work. He already had it apart and I trust his word as Fords are his expertise. Gonna get the next belt size up from advanced auto later today. Thanks for your response Yellow Hatch!
It's not they are selling a part that has no benefits they just happen to sell each pulley (crank and waterpump) separately and I guess they assume you already have the lightweight crank pulley installed and just sell the waterpump for an "upgrade" later. At this point though I am sticking with the stockers as I do not want to deal with the timing issues for minimal gain (especially since this is my daily driver). I think you are calling the wrong number by the way. I have been calling the one on their Ebay listing: (815)675-1822 and the lady has put me on the phone with a knowledgeable individual every time. But yeah on the plugs the trusty Coppers are best bang for your buck, I don't deal with "designer" sparkplugs that yield no benefits. Factory Motorcraft for long life and Autolite AR103s for cheap dyno proven HP.
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It's not they are selling a part that has no benefits they just happen to sell each pulley (crank and waterpump) separately and I guess they assume you already have the lightweight crank pulley installed and just sell the waterpump for an "upgrade" later. At this point though I am sticking with the stockers as I do not want to deal with the timing issues for minimal gain (especially since this is my daily driver). I think you are calling the wrong number by the way. I have been calling the one on their Ebay listing: (815)675-1822 and the lady has put me on the phone with a knowledgeable individual every time. But yeah on the plugs the trusty Coppers are best bang for your buck, I don't deal with "designer" sparkplugs that yield no benefits. Factory Motorcraft for long life and Autolite AR103s for cheap dyno proven HP.
Yep that's the number I've been calling its listed on the Massive website. Not quite sure why they are giving me the run around though?
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