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Old 12-16-2003, 07:33 AM   #51
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I'm glad to see some people in here standin up for themselves.. good luck All_Motor.. your cars gunna be great!
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Old 12-16-2003, 09:40 AM   #52
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Thanks 03Chromechica, maybe after I'm done, me and you can have a couple races at Epping dragway
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Old 12-16-2003, 05:43 PM   #53
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if your getting a built short block a turbo would be the more or less wise thing to do. turbos are more respectable than a motor with some cams, bolt ons, and a bottle, even if u have a built short block IMO. that just means u might not throw a rod.

but with a built short block u have 2 options, consistent power with a turbo, or a decently quick car with the bottle waiting. up 2 u.

if it were my car, id get all your bolt ons on, cams, exhaust done, cam gears all that, maybe some custom work to the factory head, then decide where u want to go from there. once u decide, then build a short block on the side and swap em when its done.

btw Nawwwwwss isnt considered all motor in a lot of rubrics.
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Old 12-16-2003, 06:52 PM   #54
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That's what I'm doing, finishing my exhaust and other bolt ons then get a cams, camshafts, ported head, ect. I dunno if i'll use spray, most likely not.
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Old 12-16-2003, 08:17 PM   #55
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Okay, if you had a built short block you would be making NO MORE power than if using a stock block. Building up your internals is simply strengthening the motors ability to sustain more power not make more power.
Actually, you can find more power with a built short block, albeit not as much as in a built head. If you lighten and fully balance the rotating assembly, you will FREE up some power, but I can't say how much in a focus, cuz I've never built a focus engine. Also, bumping the compression up via pistons will yield some more juice. Just out of curiosity though, you guys mentioned milling the head 0.500" . That is half an inch!! Is this true for a zetec? I figured you meant 0.050"....but someone correct me if I'm wrong, that just sounds too much.


Oh yeah...you strenghten the engine, not a motor. Motors are electric. Sorry for picking
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Old 12-16-2003, 08:26 PM   #56
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lol the . wasnt in the right place

feelin technical today essveetee??
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sorry man, I didn't want to pick on anyone but, I'm used to being technical. I'm graduating in the spring as a mech. engineer and I work full time with nothing but engineers and geeks like myself

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Oh yeah...you strenghten the engine, not a motor. Motors are electric. Sorry for picking
i was talkin about this one lol, i strengthened my blender motor with some titanium blades and overgauged wiring . the .5 deal did need to be pointed out. word to the mummy.
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Old 12-16-2003, 11:28 PM   #59
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lol, I love souping up appliance motors....nothing better that having my dryer spin my clothes dry at 8,000 RPM
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First off you are correct about one thing, lightening the rotating assembly can be worth a few ponies, in a focus it probably isn't worth much since no one has done it. Checking with some rally companies you may find they perfect building the engine but for what the average consumer will spend on costly machining will make the gain worthless.

Secondly, raising compression is raising compression regardless of how it is done, whether by milling the cylinder head or using pistons.

So in the end you will not see a gain from using a built shortblock! Or motor if you will, since an internal combustion engine is in reality an air pump maybe we should call them that, really have you nothing better to do?
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