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Old 02-10-2014, 10:38 PM   #21
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So by far, the xcal3 is the most popular, and reliable for the duratec. Im assuming that it comes with several preloaded programs, or is it a blank programmer. Meaning no tunes written onto it?
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Old 02-11-2014, 09:05 AM   #22
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I'm not sure if the xcal3 comes with pre-loaded tunes but I know my Livewire has pre-loaded tunes on it so i'm pretty sure the xcal does as well, but none of them come with a custom tune written to them unless you also buy it from the tuner and he puts it on there before he sends it to you.

But again you NEVER want to use a pre-loaded tune, I have plenty of pre-loaded tunes on mine but I have never once used one or even thought of using one. Pre-loaded tunes are just a generic tune file and since every engine is different there is no way a pre-loaded tune file can effectively run your engine as efficently as possible, especially once you start throwing mods on the car.

Pay the money and get a custom tune for your car with your mods. The great thing about toms tune is the fact that he gives you free tune updates as you keep adding more NA mods so you don't have to keep paying for additional tunes every time you add another mod like you would with FSWERKS.
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I wonder if there would be Ny benifit to takking the water port on the head and running the coolant threw it still?
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No there would be no benefit, you WANT to keep the coolant from running through the head to keep the coolant temps down, that's another major benefit of removing the EGR valve. By removing the EGR valve and still running the coolant through the head your almost defeating half the purpose of removing the EGR valve.

The Massive Speed EGR delete kit comes with everything you need to re-route the coolant lines.
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I wonder if there would be Ny benifit to takking the water port on the head and running the coolant threw it still?
That port is primarily for cooling the EGR valve, no valve = nothing to cool.

Blocking the passage with the valve removal prevents exh. gas flow through the head, removing a source of heat in the head for the coolant to deal with.

No extra heat from the exhaust gasses passing thru the head, no need for extra cooling there.
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So by far, the xcal3 is the most popular, and reliable for the duratec. Im assuming that it comes with several preloaded programs, or is it a blank programmer. Meaning no tunes written onto it?
You can buy the SCT 3015 with preloaded tunes but for very little more money I can sell you a xcal3 flasher , full custom tune , free tune updates as you add more NA mods and my datalogging services to make your tuning experience easier for 399.00 and 20.00 for shipping

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Old 02-11-2014, 11:18 PM   #27
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So you're the famous Tom everyone keeps talking about. I don't really want to spend that kind of money on this car. (Even though the price is competitive with everyone else) I'm in the market for used flashers. Im assuming one can still write programs to it yes?
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Yes - IF you buy the car that comes with it (chuckle)

FWIW - Advertising used flashers for sale was prohibited here a while ago, for the reason that once used they are "locked" to the car they were used on.

Units that are currently supported by the manufacturer can be sent in to be "unlocked" for a fee (not cheap). Used unit + unlocking + shipping can cost more than a new unit. No longer supported = expensive scan tool. Needs repair + unlocking - might save a few dollars if it was free.

Now IIRC there were some that supposedly would work on a couple cars, but you'd have to buy it & try it to know if it would work. For all I know for this is just an urban legend, don't remember it confirmed by anyone I trust.

If I was investing in one right now, I'd want a current unit I could expect to be supported for a while. No fun if you need to go back to stock, your unit doesn't cooperate, and it's no longer supported for repair. (for one scenario)

You may find a deal on one that works for you, just wanted to throw out the warnings.
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Yes - IF you buy the car that comes with it (chuckle)

FWIW - Advertising used flashers for sale was prohibited here a while ago, for the reason that once used they are "locked" to the car they were used on.

Units that are currently supported by the manufacturer can be sent in to be "unlocked" for a fee (not cheap). Used unit + unlocking + shipping can cost more than a new unit. No longer supported = expensive scan tool. Needs repair + unlocking - might save a few dollars if it was free.

Now IIRC there were some that supposedly would work on a couple cars, but you'd have to buy it & try it to know if it would work. For all I know for this is just an urban legend, don't remember it confirmed by anyone I trust.

If I was investing in one right now, I'd want a current unit I could expect to be supported for a while. No fun if you need to go back to stock, your unit doesn't cooperate, and it's no longer supported for repair. (for one scenario)

You may find a deal on one that works for you, just wanted to throw out the warnings.
Thank you. Im still a newb to the focus world (see # of posts here), so this insight is very helpful. Ill have to do some thinking on whether I will see enough benefit to warrant the cost. Thank you again.
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So the only real advantage of removing the EGR is reducing cooling needs? My EGR is turned off with my tune, but I didn't think it would be worthwhile to remove the EGR. Is there a noticeable difference?
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