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Old 01-13-2014, 10:01 AM   #1
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Tail Light Issues

I'm working on a 2002 Ford Focus ZX5 and have been chasing an electrical issue for about a month with little to no luck. Started almost 6 months ago with the tail lights staying on when the car was running or just in the on position. Pulled both connections off the stop light switch and the lights were still on. Pulled the fuse to the headlight switch and nothing changed. Also pulled the fuse to the emergency flasher switch with no luck. When I pulled the turn signal switch fuse they turned off. There had also been issues with only the front blinkers working. Replaced the switch and now all blinkers work but the taillights still stay on and again if I pull the fuse to the turn signal switch the tail lights turn off. I've done ground tests to what I could find with no luck. Does anyone have a direction that I can go from here?


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Old 01-13-2014, 09:05 PM   #2
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It's a hatchback.

The wiring umbilical to the hatch is a common failure point. Insulation cracks & breaks off of wires, crossed wires result.

Peel back the boot & your questions may be answered.

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I've taken that boot off and taken the rear plastic cover off and gone through that wiring but didn't find any shorts. I'll take more time to do it again though. Does anyone know where the ground is for the tail lights? I can't seem to find that specific wiring diagram.
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Is it an automatic? If so there is something to do with the shift selector that cause a similar issue.
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From your first post a "cross" between the turn circuit & the rear running lights somewhere seems likely.

To throw out another idea, 'cause someone else had the problem recently, is there a trailer wiring harness on the car?

The other member who had this found a harness from a PO he didn't know was there, not done right resulting in the problem.

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No there isn't a trailer harness on it. I did finally find a wiring diagram so I'll run through some of the suggestions from earlier and probably end up taking half the car apart to trace wires to their ground.
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Here is a picture that will help you

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Okay so I had time to work on the car today. I went into the hatch wiring loom and found only one cracked wire that was a ground. So that part I pulled away from everything. Still having the issue with the tail lights. The dimmer switch does have the light on in the switch when the car is one whether the headlights are on or not. I don't know if this is normal or not i've never noticed it before. I was messing with the wiring a bit in that loom though. I moved it all around looking for more cracks and didn't find anything. I unplugged both switches on the brake pedal and unplugged the headlight switch. Turned the car in the ON position not running and the tail lights were off. I plugged in the brake switches. Tail lights were still off. Plugged in the headlight switch. Tail lights still remained off. I hit the brake a couple times and everything was working perfectly. Then about a minute later it went back to doing the same thing again. Ideas? Also the car was never turned on.
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