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Old 12-08-2013, 10:36 AM   #21
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back to the original post.

I am a total advocate for winter tires, and I agree that the premium tires are better than the budget winter tires. but the real highlight should be that any snow tire is 100 time better than all season tires.

if we were to rate them on a scale of 10 for winter traction

brand new all seasons 5
budget winters 9
premium winter 10

10 is better than 9, but 9 is a HUGE improvement on 5.

So, if you cant afford the premium tires, still get the budget ones because you will be much better off than no winter tires. unless you're in SE Wisconsin, because then you'll stop fine, but get rear ended by the car with summer tires behind you.

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Yes, you can, however if you're purchasing winter tires for the added safety and security they provide, for just a little more money you can get the best. The below two minute video tests how much of a difference there can be between premium winter tires and budget winter tires -


Budget vs Premium Tires Test -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viMDE95VTfE


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I drove for 6 mountain winters on good all seasons on my '93 AWD Eclipse and never really had any problems outside of high centering a couple times but with that said I do have dedicated snows on my STI and it makes AWD even better and if you can afford it get a set of rims and tires for winter. The biggest advantage to snow tires is stopping distances and no driver skill can duplicate that.
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I save even MORE by never buying Winter tires.
My last car.. Contour SVT had OEM Summer only tires on it. I drove it 12 Winters in SE Wisconsin never used anything but the stock Summer only tires. Over 100,000 miles.
Never had any issue.

I grew up in th 1960's with rear wheel drive cars and bald tires.. So driving in any sort of Winter stuff is no problem with front wheel drive and actual tread on the tires.. Trust me!
How are your all season tires working out for you in this monster winter? I know the winter has to be at least as bad in SE Wisconsin as it is in SE Michigan. The damn Alberta Clippers and Polar Vortexes and what not are hitting us with about the same ferocity and we broke nearly every winter record here for low temps. and snowfall in January 2014. We have 2-3 feet of snow on the ground and the plowed snow piles are getting real large. I don't think we've been above freezing for at least three weeks and we have another week or so of near or below zero F nighttime temps to look forward to. My winter tires have served me great so far. Not trying to be jerky, I'm just truly curious how your drives are going this winter with your all season tires. Thanks.
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<<How are your all season tires working out for you in this monster winter?>>
They are working OK in southeast Michigan, with record snow and almost record cold. Winter tires are better and I have them on my Miata and when I once tried to drive the Miata with summer tires I gave up and went home after half a mile but the average person can get by with all-seasons. The proof is that most of the cars on the road have all-seasons.
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I have never found winter tires to be necessary. A good set of all seasons is good enough.
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Read this to hear from a new convert:

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386258

"Getting By" on decently plowed roads vs. not having to worry, whatever you run into.

Something intended for "light snow only" pales in comparison to actual winter rated tires. If you've never tried a full set in real snow, there's no way you can appreciate the difference. There's a reason Canadian provinces are starting to REQUIRE winter rated tires when driving in the winter (don't know the current list, AFAIK Quebec started the trend).

I've driven without, and it's amazing how good all season tires can be. BUT - wouldn't you rather have twice the traction or more?

In most conditions, winter driving on snows is like summer driving in the rain - more caution required, but not a major impediment. When it really gets nasty, there's a good chance you won't make it on all seasons vs. plowing right thru with snows.

In spite of better plowing, more use of salt & sand, winter storms are a MUCH bigger emergency than ever before. ALL from the belief that "ALL Season" tires are adequate to deal with any weather IMHO. If you don't want to use snow tires, please just park it until the roads are cleared & the snow stops when conditions are just too bad to make it easily on your choice of tire.
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Meh, I'm from the Midwest. We get plenty of snow and I've never gotten stuck or gone into the ditch. Skill makes up for a lot
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