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Old 11-07-2013, 05:51 PM   #31
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Old 11-07-2013, 05:59 PM   #32
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I had to break into my 91 Firebird after locking my keys in it.

I had to rig a hanger to go through the window, curl upward and have enough force to pop the t-top bar lock open. Took 35 mins but my boss started calling me MacGyver after watching me work it open.
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Old 11-07-2013, 06:21 PM   #33
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Is there a way to physically prevent this from removing something in the door?
...probably the Mayor going car-to-car, looking for stuff to pawn, so he can support his habit!
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:33 AM   #34
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...probably the Mayor going car-to-car, looking for stuff to pawn, so he can support his habit!
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Old 11-08-2013, 08:50 AM   #35
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How are you going to explain the forensic data showing that you fired the weapon from the garage?

Either way, a simple break in is not worth risking your life or ending someone elses. Chances are, they'd be chased away.

However- if you were ever in that situation; less is more. "I feared for my life" are the only words necessary. Absolutely no explanation, answer no questions. Sounds counterintuitive but talk to any lawyer who has dealt with a self defense case. As you said, they can't get his side of the story.

Of course the best defense is to have not committed the crime! Absolutely no need to shoot a fleeing thief. However, once confronted, they should be aware that life is unfair and they probably shouldn't have brought a fist/mouth/knife to a gun fight. If they did bring a gun, then they probably shouldn't have made me aware of that fact because that makes it pretty open and shut. "He was grabbing at his waist, I feared for my life. No more questions, please."
I should of stated that it was not a serious response, or made a smiley, sorry man but I would never do that nor recommend anyone to do that, I agree with you that it would be stupid.
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Old 11-08-2013, 09:40 AM   #36
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We have the Castle Law here in Missouri. He would have either had to have been in your home, or you would've have had to have been in your car
We have the blow you away no matter what law here in Texas. We had a case of an elderly man who heard a noise and went out in his garage with his gun to defend his "castle" Police blew him away while he was standing inside his domicile.

Think twice before you run outside with a gun:

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/2...is-own-garage/
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:33 PM   #37
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I couldn't see any evidence of tampering around the window but who knows. Are these cars easy to break into electronically?
Yes.

But please don't scapegoat Ford. All these companies are guilty of myopia or corner cutting and may not have IT people involved that even begin to contemplate these things.

Do some research. There are news articles you don't want to read. Anything a with wireless connectivity, bluetooth or wi-fi, can be hacked. Since nobody bothered to put in proper security (even your precious iphone doesn't have a firewall built in), our entire happy electronic realm is one big virtual pus bag waiting to happen.

Granted, one EMP would take care of everyone's problems... and all we need is the sun for that... or a nuclear weapon aimed by one of our friends, enemies, or frenemies...
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Old 11-11-2013, 03:59 PM   #38
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Yes.

But please don't scapegoat Ford. All these companies are guilty of myopia or corner cutting and may not have IT people involved that even begin to contemplate these things.

Do some research. There are news articles you don't want to read. Anything a with wireless connectivity, bluetooth or wi-fi, can be hacked. Since nobody bothered to put in proper security (even your precious iphone doesn't have a firewall built in), our entire happy electronic realm is one big virtual pus bag waiting to happen.

Granted, one EMP would take care of everyone's problems... and all we need is the sun for that... or a nuclear weapon aimed by one of our friends, enemies, or frenemies...
The iPhone does not have a user configurable firewall. However, the OS itself listens to only one very high TCP port and has lots of built in security. It's been an extremely difficult platform to hack, even for law enforcement. Often when you hear about the iPhone being 'hacked', it required physical connections to the phone, and hours upon hours with said device. Not that ANY connected computer is not vulnerable to hacking. However, modern operating systems aren't as easy to get into as CSI makes it look. The iPhone and Android platforms being no exception.

There is no 'hacking' involved on the Ford security though. It's not some hi-tech fort knox security system. Even your cars 'advanced' computers that run the engine, transmission, and other components are remarkably out-dated, low tech and simple compared to other small computers. But they get the job done.

As far as your ford security? It's just a basic on/off system waiting for an RF signal. When it gets that signal, it unlocks the doors. Obviously, in the case of OP, the security system did it's job and was not spoofed, but the doors were unlocked (supposedly). If this was done electronically, it was probably just done with a blaster blasting tons of RF frequencies at once until something sticks. Basically, it's the opposite of an RF 'scanner', like a police scanner, that listens to tons of frequencies at once (or in quick succession) and connects to whatever one has activity.
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Back to OP
check that the door is actually locking
A bad lock actuator will leave it unlocked but alarm on
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As far as your ford security? It's just a basic on/off system waiting for an RF signal. When it gets that signal, it unlocks the doors. Obviously, in the case of OP, the security system did it's job and was not spoofed, but the doors were unlocked (supposedly). If this was done electronically, it was probably just done with a blaster blasting tons of RF frequencies at once until something sticks. Basically, it's the opposite of an RF 'scanner', like a police scanner, that listens to tons of frequencies at once (or in quick succession) and connects to whatever one has activity.
Virtually all cars built within the last couple of years use a RKE (Remote Keyless Entry) system that incorporate an AES 128 bit cipher.
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