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Old 10-18-2013, 02:15 AM   #11
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My next move was going to be building a megasquirt 2...



And will that motor be built in the kitchen, Tom? LOL
That's where I built all my engines at home, until we moved to a new house and the kitchen is upstairs. Try lugging a big block chevy up the stairs.
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Old 10-18-2013, 02:19 AM   #12
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Back to the 200 hp goal, why start with a 2.0?
Go for as much displacement as you can stuff into the shortblock.
The 2.5 dtecs are 175hp stock, it wouldn't be just a bolt up and go deal but that's probably whre I would start.

The problem with an 8,000 rpm motor, aside from cost and longevity, is you need to spin the bejesus out of it before it makes power. Midrange torque is where it's at.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:33 AM   #13
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2.0SVT might get you there. I was talking with karl from massive and he was telling me about that green zx2/SVT race car that was in the neighborhood. I think what would steer people away is that to get the CNC head, spring/valves, cams, gears, VCT delete, studs, tune, ect... its probably going to run you about $3k in the hopes of getting your focus to get 200+WHP.

Thats why most people go turbo route because you will make some real hot nasty speed power with proven results.


Or you can just be like the rest of us with n/a cars and just live it and have fun, because i'm sure most of the 180whp are probably getting 200hp at the crank.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:54 AM   #14
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Thats why I like the 23 over a 20= mid range grunt, great for a DD. Add a few mods & free up the motor & do some suspension mods to get what power you have to the ground. You have a 20 & going all out, why not do a 23? As the rods & pistons are going to be the same price. Tri point engineering did 25's for their race cars yrs ago.
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Old 10-18-2013, 07:59 AM   #15
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Are there any 6 speeds for 23's? It not needed but it makes bit of difference.
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Check out my thread for the build on my race engine.
I did just that, thanks for sharing the info. Oh and btw you're race car sounds excellent. People at work were sure looking at me funny though lol


To everyone else thanks for the replies/insights.

I can see the cost deters a lot of people it seems. Unless you're racing a sanctioned event that restricts what you can do I think it makes more sense to do the forced induction for the money.

Hmm, what to do, what to do
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:00 PM   #17
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Yes for a street car FI is the way to go...
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Are there any 6 speeds for 23's? It not needed but it makes bit of difference.
I believe the Fusions did, not sure though. I know my Dad's 2.5 is a 6 speed auto. I think they should of put the 6 speed auto that they used for the Fusion in the second gen focus too.
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Id like to see how close a stock longblock 2.5 can come with bolt-ons and a good tune. that would be a super simple setup vs a full tilt 2.0
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