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Old 10-17-2013, 10:15 AM   #1
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200 HP NA cars?

I want about 200 WHP from my car. I did a search but couldn't find much info on getting to 200 with a 2.0. Has anyone done this? I'd like to hear some opinions and see some results.

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Old 10-17-2013, 10:22 AM   #2
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Check out my thread for the build on my race engine. Its not that difficult to do but expensive. I got 215 to the wheels using a stock intake and TB. You can hit that number a little easier if you upgrade the intake. Most high power nap duratecs use individual Thottle bodies but the cossie intake or eBay clone. The biggest problem is you will have to spin the engine to very high RPM's. Which means you'll need some exotic lower end parts and oiling system. Cus words has all the details worked out and it's an awfully good engine but you need deep pockets....

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OP,


Most of the 200hp n/a builds start to get expensive, with plenty of people chiming in to stay go FI. Always a cool idea and i like seeing them but hard to justify the costs for the gains vs going turbo.

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Check out my thread for the build on my race engine. Its not that difficult to do but expensive. I got 215 to the wheels using a stock intake and TB. You can hit that number a little easier if you upgrade the intake. Most high power nap duratecs use individual Thottle bodies but the cossie intake or eBay clone. The biggest problem is you will have to spin the engine to very high RPM's. Which means you'll need some exotic lower end parts and oiling system. Cus words has all the details worked out and it's an awfully good engine but you need deep pockets....

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would have loved to see what you could have done if you werent restricted to stock intake/tb. your video of the car backing up in your drive way with out the exhaust is still one of my favorite duratec vids, sounded amazing. You should rebuild it
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Thanks guys, thats kinda what I figured. I'm still toying with the idea of a budget turbo build but a stage 2 from fswerks is probably worth the investment in time savings / parts mixing
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Check out my thread for the build on my race engine. Its not that difficult to do but expensive. I got 215 to the wheels using a stock intake and TB. You can hit that number a little easier if you upgrade the intake. Most high power nap duratecs use individual Thottle bodies but the cossie intake or eBay clone. The biggest problem is you will have to spin the engine to very high RPM's. Which means you'll need some exotic lower end parts and oiling system. Cus words has all the details worked out and it's an awfully good engine but you need deep pockets....

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Wasnt there a rev limit for the stock ECU? Something just north of 8k? That would stop a high HP 2.0 id imagine
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Yep, 8300 is max the real time CPU can count before it loses synch for the 35-1 tooth count... And if you don't have a custom file like I do its limited to 8000, regardless of what values you set using SCT's software...

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Wasnt there a rev limit for the stock ECU? Something just north of 8k? That would stop a high HP 2.0 id imagine
My next move was going to be building a megasquirt 2...

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I believe you can do a rear mount turbo for about 1k or less. I had one completely ready for my Camaro that I built for 780$. You can also do a conventional turbo set up for cheaper if you build it yourself.

I think I was on FSWERKS page on FB and it showed a turbo build vs a N/A build and the Turbo build made a lot more power, the down fall of the turbo was the N/A turned 7800 RPM's, which must be fun as hell!
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[QUOTE=tb1999;4903577]My next move was going to be building a megasquirt 2...



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