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Old 07-21-2013, 03:27 PM   #1
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Serious Problem, Spark Plug piece fell into my Cylinder

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I have a serious problem here. When Replacing my Spark Plugs, the Plug in Cylinder Two, cracked on me; when removing the Plug, a piece of plastic fell into the Cylinder.. (I watched it, tried to save it, but failed)

So i haven't Tried to Crank my Car, because I know it would/could cause Damage to my gasket/head. I actually haven't moved my car. It just 'fell in' I cannot see it with a flash light, but i know its just sitting there somewhere.

Is there any easy way to get it out. Ill post a Picture of the Cracked Plug in a bit, but im really hoping it wont cause damage.

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its a 2001 ford focus, DOHC 2.0 L if that helps at all


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Old 07-21-2013, 03:48 PM   #2
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Drain the coolant, take the head off, get the piece of material out.
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Old 07-21-2013, 03:50 PM   #3
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I'll assume it's sitting on top of your piston. Is it possible you could turn the crank by hand and get the plastic?

I had a similar problem when servicing my dads sthil saw but managed to gently crank the piston around to grab the broken part of the plug

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I'll assume it's sitting on top of your piston. Is it possible you could turn the crank by hand and get the plastic?

I had a similar problem when servicing my dads sthil saw but managed to gently crank the piston around to grab the broken part of the plug

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not to sound stupid, but how do i turn the crank by hand?
Ive done spark plugs before, but never had one ever crack on me... Until today.

Im planning on trying to shop vac it out in a little bit, to see if i can get it out. Its seriously no wider than the pinky finger nail, but a bit long.

Ill upload some pictures of it now.
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Old 07-21-2013, 04:19 PM   #5
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Here is the little bits that are remaining , which have NOT gone in the Cylinder



Here is the spark plug with the Missing piece which fell in

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Old 07-21-2013, 04:32 PM   #6
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That isn't plastic, it is ceramic and will certainly damage the piston and head if you run the engine with it in there.

You can turn the engine over by hand with a wrench on the crankshaft bolt. Once that piston is at TDC, you might try the old "gum on a stick" trick (but don't use gum or a stick), but frankly I'd pull the head and do it the right way.

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OUCH yeah that's a problem... This is why some people here like to say not to use cheap plugs, specifically made by NGK and BOSCH... Yeah to get that out your most likely going to have to pull the head, unless you have allot of patience with very thin pliers...

To answer question on how to crank the engine "by hand" you have to remove the serpentine belt (optional but makes it easier) remove the passenger side wheel and belt splash guard, and use a wrench and socket to turn the crank fully clockwise "by hand" until the cylinder is closest to top so you can see in...
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OUCH yeah that's a problem... This is why some people here like to say not to use cheap plugs, specifically made by NGK and BOSCH... Yeah to get that out your most likely going to have to pull the head, unless you have allot of patience with very thin pliers...

To answer question on how to crank the engine "by hand" you have to remove the serpentine belt (optional but makes it easier) remove the passenger side wheel and belt splash guard, and use a wrench and socket to turn the crank fully clockwise "by hand" until the cylinder is closest to top so you can see in...
Is there any possibility that it could just be sitting in there loose and a shop vac would work without me cranking it by hand? Or even taking my head off?

The new ones im putting in were NGK's but im not sure if i want to put them in now.
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It's possible that if you had a good strong shop vac, it could suck it out... But your chances might be increased if you brought the piton to the top, especially on a compression stroke...

It would be awesome if you had a rubber hose the same diameter as the spark plug hole, then you could make your own vacuum tip to pull it up out of there...
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It's possible that if you had a good strong shop vac, it could suck it out... But your chances might be increased if you brought the piton to the top, especially on a compression stroke...

It would be awesome if you had a rubber hose the same diameter as the spark plug hole, then you could make your own vacuum tip to pull it up out of there...
I do have one that fits the hole exactly, im going to hope that this can grab it. Or ill be working on this all night .. First time this has Ever happened to me.
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