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View Poll Results: How are your headlights?
No 3M/original bulbs/no problems 22 50.00%
No 3M/original bulbs/problems 8 18.18%
No 3M/new bulbs/no problems 6 13.64%
No 3M/new bulbs/problems 5 11.36%
3M/original bulbs/no problems 1 2.27%
3M/original bulbs/problems 1 2.27%
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3M/new bulbs/problems 1 2.27%
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Old 07-13-2013, 02:11 PM   #1
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OEM Ti lights hazing/clouding. Who else has noted problems?

Recently (the past couple of months) I have noted an issue with the headlights on my Focus. The lenses seem to be clouding/hazing near the parking lights and it's getting rather noticeable. Please note this does not refer to moisture. This is the lens being affected.

My managers and I were wondering if it was the 3M on top getting damaged, or the lights themselves. Yesterday the 3M was peeled off and it was confirmed it is indeed the lights. I'm looking into warranty replacements (the headlights are under a year old) but I'm trying to find the cause of the problem first.

The parking lights sit fairly close to the lens so we figure heat from them is doing the damage. However, I'm not sure if it's due to the lights, 3M, or both. While the lights have been on the car for not even 10 months, they have had 3M almost since day one and have had stealth parking lights; normal bulbs coated in a translucent silver coating to hide the amber. I want to find out what specific item (or perhaps both) is causing the issue.

If you are noting problems with clouding or similar, have replaced bulbs, and/or have wrapped your lights in 3M, please respond to the poll so we can hopefully determine what caused this!






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Old 07-13-2013, 04:42 PM   #2
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Are yoy saying there is cloud ing on tue ibside of the lenses?

If I understand right, I would say the seal of the headlight is broken, and damp is getting in.

I don't understand what the '3M' you talk about is, as I only believe it to be a brand/make of poducts.

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The clouding is definitely not moisture; the lens is losing its clarity and getting a hazy look. Both lights are affected in the area by the parking lights and nowhere else.

By 3M I am referring to the 3M clear bra, often used to protect paint. My headlights were wrapped with it as well to avoid rock damage in winter.
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I see what you mean, have you spoken to the people that applied the 3M? Or is it the manager you speak of.

Ive had a food search and cant find anything, only thing I can of it Heat from your headlights melting the film. But being designed to be on headlights, 3M would of definitely thought of that. Its sn odd one forsure.

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I see what you mean, have you spoken to the people that applied the 3M? Or is it the manager you speak of.

Ive had a food search and cant find anything, only thing I can of it Heat from your headlights melting the film. But being designed to be on headlights, 3M would of definitely thought of that. Its sn odd one forsure.

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The 3M was applied by my coworkers and I last year. It wasn't the film being damaged though. I've added the photos to the original post now to show the problem; they show the headlights without the 3M since it was peeled off yesterday.
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Does look odd, im not sure on the cause, but you should be able to polish them up fairy easy.

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The clouding is definitely not moisture; the lens is losing its clarity and getting a hazy look. Both lights are affected in the area by the parking lights and nowhere else.

By 3M I am referring to the 3M clear bra, often used to protect paint. My headlights were wrapped with it as well to avoid rock damage in winter.
so in trying to protect from rock damage you incurred heat damage?
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I don't have the Ti, I have stock bulbs, and the chrome stock ones, and they do look slightly cloudy, I'll have to see exactly what part it was, but it wasn't moisture. It looked like it was the lens.
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Does look odd, im not sure on the cause, but you should be able to polish them up fairy easy.

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Unfortunately it's on the inside of the lens, so polishing it out of the question.

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so in trying to protect from rock damage you incurred heat damage?
Essentially, yes. It could be from the lights being too hot somehow, the 3M holding the heat in, or both. I have noticed that even original, unwrapped lights can get warm.

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I don't have the Ti, I have stock bulbs, and the chrome stock ones, and they do look slightly cloudy, I'll have to see exactly what part it was, but it wasn't moisture. It looked like it was the lens.
In the same place? That's odd. This could be a factory issue then and not related entirely to other factors.
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I have seen clouding of many headlight lenses over the years, ESP with cars left in the sun a lot. I keep mine well waxed and have never had an issue with this for any car I have owned. Just good luck? Who knows? I will, however continue to wax them
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