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Old 07-13-2013, 04:01 AM   #1
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rear drum brakes

I was thinking about upgrading my brake lines but then I had a question that hopefully someone on here can answer. Can I upgrade my rear drum breaks? I know no one to my knowledge makes the disc rear break swap kit anymore so I wanted to do something and also I noticed that the drums don't come off like other vehicles that ive done in the past. does anyone know if the rear drums are pressed onto the car or are they just a pain in the butt to get off?


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Old 07-13-2013, 04:29 AM   #2
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Moved to the Brake and Suspension area


As far as I know there are no upgraded brake pad options. Just use a good brand and you should be fine. You can upgrade to SS brake lines though. I found that this made a huge improvement for my braking feel, plus when the brakes would fade I would still have brake pedal pressure instead of it going all mushy. It also helped me with lock up since I don't have a abs equipped focus. It made it much easier to modulate the brakes.

Now that being said the best upgrade you could do is the SVT front brake upgrade. I just did this recently and holy cow what a difference it made. Easily the best upgrade next to SS lines IMO.
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Old 07-13-2013, 09:17 AM   #3
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you can also check out the for.sale.section here. There is usually a set of rear disk for sale.

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Old 07-13-2013, 11:23 PM   #4
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Now that being said the best upgrade you could do is the SVT front brake upgrade. I just did this recently and holy cow what a difference it made. Easily the best upgrade next to SS lines IMO.
Isn't upgrading just the front brakes a bad thing? If the car is set up from the factory, they have the strength of the brakes calculated so that you are utilizing the tires to their maximum thresold when the weight shifts under braking.

If you upgrade just the front, you'll reach the tires' limit of grip sooner (with less pedal pressure than stock), and since you can't differentiate the brake pressure from F/R, you are under-utilizing your rear brakes, resulting in a longer stopping distance.

Maybe it would make sense for the street if you want to apply less pedal pressure to stop, But in terms of maximum performance, I think it's a detriment.
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I don't have any problems and braking is greatly improved. Most of the braking is done by the front anyways. The rears are there just to help keep the car stable. There are a ton of members on here running the same setup I have with no problems. If the rear brakes are adjusted properly then they will do a fine job. This has been discussed on here in length before. Beside as far as I know the brake proportioning valve is the same on all foci.
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Neptune you should look closer at hotrod pocketbikes like 600s. They have virtually no brake on the back at all. Then look at the fronts. OFTEN you WANT to underutilize the backs, them locking up is what generally first causes loss of control and skidout. I take the hot bike view that you use SS lines on front but rubber on the back, the rubber expanding lowers the lockup hit a bit to maybe not lockup. On motorcycle that is death, I cannot see why same logic does not apply to a car. Cars brake 80% up front, or where all the weight shifting from the back goes. It's worthless really to improve the backs if you can already lock them up and that too easily.
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I'm not debating my thought and saying it's "right," sorry if I mis-communicated. Just adding in an idea.

Theoretically the car should be set up perfectly from the factory, and being FWD, of course it is known the front does 70-80% of the braking. But unless someone does a scientific test to see when the front and rear lock up under heavy braking, we will never know what would be the optimal brake set-up.
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Old 07-14-2013, 10:55 AM   #8
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anyone know where to get the SS lines from? ive looked off of google at universal ss lines but is there anyone that makes them for the focus?
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fawzie13R your drums are only held on by a "one time use only" nut. Remove the silver dust cap on the drum and then you can see the nut I think its a 30mm. Remove the nut and then wiggle the drum off and that's it.

As to upgrading to rear disks, I'm sure you can order the parts from a titanium model I believe they came standard on it, but have no idea how easy it is to convert, and it will be costly prob about $500 from dealer.
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fawzie13R your drums are only held on by a "one time use only" nut. Remove the silver dust cap on the drum and then you can see the nut I think its a 30mm. Remove the nut and then wiggle the drum off and that's it.

As to upgrading to rear disks, I'm sure you can order the parts from a titanium model I believe they came standard on it, but have no idea how easy it is to convert, and it will be costly prob about $500 from dealer.
I thought the titanium was 5 lug instead of 4 lug?
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