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Old 07-08-2013, 09:43 PM   #1
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Budget Exhaust

Have a 01 ZX3 automatic (Mrs cant drive stick), Bought it new and now the exhaust is leaking again. I say again as it has been welded and patched 4 times now, every time inspection comes along for the most part. But now the lunchbox is at the point of being unfixable and the pipes are getting bad too. Was looking around and the prices are high for stock systems but noticed some of the 'duck fart' cat back systems on ebay are more affordable $120-130.00. Has anyone tried them and how loud are they, don't mind a little sound but don't want it to sound like a tractor or sound real wrappy. We do drive normal and am not a racer anymore and am proud of getting 34 mpg in this 12 year old car. Price is the major issue as I had a heart attack not too long ago and am now unemployed and the Mrs is disabled.

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PS did a search but it cam up with 120+ search pages.


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Old 07-08-2013, 10:03 PM   #2
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If you want to sound like a Civic with a fart cannon that's a good choice. If you want one that sounds great and is cheap go to here. If you scroll down you will see the 2.5 aluminum ones that are only $265. They sound good you have a few options like borla and flowmaster and aren't cheap pos's like that ebay one.
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Back in December I was considering an eBay exhaust. There was actually a thread I was following at the time where a guy and his son bought one (I believe it was the BBR catback) and did a review. From what I remember, they said it fit well and sounded fine, but it had a huge tip.

After much debate, I went with a Magnaflow catback which was admittedly more expensive, but gave me the peace of mind that comes with buying from a credible manufacturer. Something else to keep in mind is that eBay kits are not typically made with real stainless steel and will end up rusting in areas that regularly salt the roads during the winter. So, in a few years you may just find yourself in the same boat you're currently in.
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Thanks for the reply's, Still up in the air, I would love to go with the 2.5" one anarchy0392 suggested but at over twice the price ($295.00) with shipping I will have to do some thinking. With that thought what is the difference in the mufflers? Borla, AeroTurbine, Magnaflow or Flowmaster, all the same price, any pros or cons?

Thanks Fluffy6079, will look for the review.
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Mandrel exhaust systems hands down on a budget.
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I always assumed that mandrel bent was more expensive than crush bent?????

Have you talked to any of the local muffler shops? They can usually bend up an aluminized mild steel exhaust fairly cheap..throw in a universal muffler and resonator and bob's your uncle. This is depending on where you live I guess.

The issues with the cheaper cat backs is that they are almost always loud due to the thin wall tubing and poor quality resonators and mufflers, or lack there of.

I installed one of the Magnaflow cat back systems on my Tribute (ZETEC powered) and it was pretty loud. The reason for this was that they did away with the resonator and only had the one muffler. I had to instal a universal resonator to bring it back to regular noise level.

So if you are looking to get a cheap exhaust that isn't loud. Make sure it has a long enough resonator and proper muffler. I'm sure you could buy a cheap ebay cat back and weld in a quality muffler/resonator fairly cheap... If you know how to weld or have a friend who can weld that is.

Who is doing the labour?
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The Magnaflow I installed on my Focus isn't really loud. From what I understand, the cat does a whole lot of the muffling. I also don't have any other engine mods, so that might be part of it too.

Here's the thread I mentioned in my previous post:
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295584

And here's the review I posted of my Magnaflow:
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Thank you Fluffy6079 for the links, reading them as I type. I know the cat does a lot of muffling, Back in the day I bought a new 89 Mitsubishi 4 cyl 4x4 Mighty Max pickup. Ended up lifting it 6"+ (100% custom IFS suspension lift as they never made kits for this truck), ran 33 or 35" swampers (too long ago to remember, quite sure they were 35's) and made a custom straight pipe exhaust, that was loud but sounded good., sold the truck with 150k on it and still going strong, no idea what ever happened to it.

GhostTribute: I have signed off on the cheap ebay system, if I was just flipping the car I might have gone for it but like you and others said, they are just too cheap. As for the labor, I have numerous friends that have shops and or garages that are always willing to help, they all like working on this car, things always go so easy on it. I also know my way around as noted in the above paragraph. :)

Sorry for the drawn out story, it happens when you get old..er.
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The Magnaflow I installed on my Focus isn't really loud. From what I understand, the cat does a whole lot of the muffling. I also don't have any other engine mods, so that might be part of it too.

Here's the thread I mentioned in my previous post:
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=295584

And here's the review I posted of my Magnaflow:
http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309532
Yeah I have a ram horn header, high flow cat and level 2 comp cams. so I can kind of see why mine might be louder than your install.



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Do any of your buddies have access to a tube bender?
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These are the people that I am talking about,


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