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Old 07-01-2013, 11:46 AM   #1
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Help advice needed -Head Gasket gone again

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I purchased my ford focus in feb 2010 new then after 20,000 miles and 18 months later the head gasket went - the dealer garage repaired it for free-now 20 months and 40,000 miles the head gasket has gone again, i have always had the car serviced with the dealer
Is this normal ??? or is there a problem with the car ???


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Old 07-01-2013, 12:03 PM   #2
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I moved you to our general technical chat area. You should get some more responses. Please post more details about your engine. This site is US based but has lots of people who are knowledgeable that can still help. It definitely isn't right that you have gone through two head gaskets.
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Depends on the extent of the repairs made by the mechanic - gasket failures can warp heads and most warped heads need planing - and what caused the gasket failure in the first place (engine overheating?) As stated, not normal.
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Really sorry dont know what caused the original problem, i never asked they never said i was just too concerned about the bill to ask but they said this time that they skimmed it last time ..does that sound right ?
Now they want me to pay 1300 to get it repaired
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definitely need more information as to why the gasket needed replacement the first time. Sometimes the gasket can break due to overheating of the cooling system. This is the worst type of head gasket break because it can warp the parts separated by the gasket. Another way the gasket can break is between the cylinders causing compression leakage. This sometimes happens but is not as common as the breakage due to overheat. If you have the paperwork for the first repair, it may tell what was found and why it was replaced. If it was due to overheating the head surface may not have been prepared correctly when put back into service.
Another reason this head gasket may need replacing so soon is that it was not done correctly. I had this happen with a car I purchased, some of the head bolts were finger loose because the PO did not know that they went on in stages when he replaced it
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thank you for the advice i will ring the garage tomorrow and ask for the info
Great help thanks
i will get back tomorrow to you
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Old 07-01-2013, 12:35 PM   #7
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Not normal, what engine do you have in your Focus?
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One time use head bolts most likely, ask if they CHANGED them for new. If you didn't pay first time around they may have used them over to save shop cost. That could do it.
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Gas engine, blowing HG's is abnormal.
Diesel, I can't say for certain, but sounds odd.

The thing that does (maybe) concern me is that the head was skimmed. Diesel is dependent on compression. If you raise compression you must change injection timing. But this will depend on how much compression has actually changed and how much was taken off the head. This is why they make shims.

But lets say the job was done correct (which I don't doubt) what would cause 2 failures in 40,000 KM (or is it miles?)?
The only thing I can think of isn't overheating, it's compression. Too much pressure too early will lift a head and/or burn through a HG. So back to injector timing. Abnormally high EGT's would reflect this.

But I'm curious why they say it's the HG that's bad. Find that out for me and I might be able to help more.
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