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Old 06-28-2013, 07:54 AM   #31
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Please dont let your poor grandson Drive a corolla its ugly and was voted the most boring car in its class. If its an automatic you want go civic if not focus sedan (lol).
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Old 06-28-2013, 07:59 AM   #32
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Toyota and Honda's quality and or features has went down over the past years while Fords has went up. Id put a Ford up against pretty much any non luxury import and Id bet it would win. Plus its always going to be cheaper....


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Oh, a Mazda is a nice car, it's the uncertainties in the company that I don't want to take on.
What uncertainties? Their basically Focuses anyway also.....even if Mazda went under Id bet you could get it serviced at a Ford dealer.
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:27 AM   #33
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I've owned a 2007 Civic before I jumped ship to the Focus. Lots of road noise but otherwise a decent car to drive (It was a manual). Had virtually no tech whatsoever, (no bluetooth, ipod usb connector, etc). Gas mileage was superior. I know the newer Civics have a lot more tech features as standard but dollar for dollar, you get more from Ford than Honda. Case in point, the Civic LX does not come with allow wheels (Its still has steel wheels with hubcaps). Also, the Civic still uses rear drum breaks on the LX trim. Just like the Focus, the interior trim is a love hate thing. I liked it but I love the Focus more. (Subjective, I know).

My SE Sport Focus has the DCT and it is excellent. No problems here. We also have a TI Hatch with a 5spd manual and I love driving that car. The DCT is smoother though (especially on the highway mainly because of the extra 6th gear). Some folks complain about the "quirkyness" of the DCT but I have yet to see any concrete evidence on this forum that convinces me that the experiences expressed by some here about the DCT are not the inherent characteristics of the transmission rather than some defect. True, folks here did buy cars with bad DCTs, but a lot of folks here are also expressing worries that their 'DCT' "might" go bad in the future, or that they simply don't like how the DCT operates. That is not the same thing.
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:29 AM   #34
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Maybe I'm not as touchy as others, but I have a 2013 dct and not one complaint.... at all. I actually *gulp* kinda like it.
I'm with you, and I drive a *gulp* 2012.
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Old 06-28-2013, 08:58 AM   #35
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like i said previously ^^^ i rate the ford as best buy followed probably by the corolla and then civic... iin australia anyaway the prices went as:

1) ford
2) civic
3) corolla

from cheapest to most expensive. Hence the ford you get bang for your buck.. i got the SE/trend model..

An yeah test drive all 3 compare prices + the differences between them. I have the auto focus and i love it. Feels european + drives well no problems thus far!

In the end you decide what you want, its personal choice and whether you want to pay money for the extras or not
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:42 AM   #36
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I've owned a 2007 Civic before I jumped ship to the Focus. Lots of road noise but otherwise a decent car to drive (It was a manual). Had virtually no tech whatsoever, (no bluetooth, ipod usb connector, etc). Gas mileage was superior. I know the newer Civics have a lot more tech features as standard but dollar for dollar, you get more from Ford than Honda. Case in point, the Civic LX does not come with allow wheels (Its still has steel wheels with hubcaps). Also, the Civic still uses rear drum breaks on the LX trim. Just like the Focus, the interior trim is a love hate thing. I liked it but I love the Focus more. (Subjective, I know).

My SE Sport Focus has the DCT and it is excellent. No problems here. We also have a TI Hatch with a 5spd manual and I love driving that car. The DCT is smoother though (especially on the highway mainly because of the extra 6th gear). Some folks complain about the "quirkyness" of the DCT but I have yet to see any concrete evidence on this forum that convinces me that the experiences expressed by some here about the DCT are not the inherent characteristics of the transmission rather than some defect. True, folks here did buy cars with bad DCTs, but a lot of folks here are also expressing worries that their 'DCT' "might" go bad in the future, or that they simply don't like how the DCT operates. That is not the same thing.
Hello? Leaking seals that contaminate clutches, bad gearchange solenoids, unexplained grinding between gears, pronounced clutch chatter, 3 or 4 software upgrades are characteristic of all DCTs? Maybe those with problems are just a few, but have you noticed the stories of owners waiting for parts because they are back-ordered? I think there's lotsa concrete, albeit anecdotal evidence that this gearbox has been pretty troublesome. And Ford's CEO admitted as much to analysts.
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Old 06-28-2013, 09:48 AM   #37
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I don't want a Mazda. Too many uncertainties right now. I'm leaning toward the manual to save the $1100 up front anyway.
I think your avatar says it all...

Buy from an American company that employs unionized workers!
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I'm with you, and I drive a *gulp* 2012.
wow, I am not the only one. There is hope!
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Hello? Leaking seals that contaminate clutches, bad gearchange solenoids, unexplained grinding between gears, pronounced clutch chatter, 3 or 4 software upgrades are characteristic of all DCTs? Maybe those with problems are just a few, but have you noticed the stories of owners waiting for parts because they are back-ordered? I think there's lotsa concrete, albeit anecdotal evidence that this gearbox has been pretty troublesome. And Ford's CEO admitted as much to analysts.
I'm not denying there aren't any problems with leaking seals, etc. But considering the fact that Ford has sold over 450,000 MK3 Focus since its launch, the amount of reported defects is emperically low. Did Ford release the DCT half-baked? Perhaps. Were there some transmissions that were / are defective? Absolutely. Does that mean the DCT is inherently defective? Like I said, so far I have not seen any evidence to indicate that. Could it eventually be proven to be true (DCT defect)? Maybe. I am just saying that even with all the complaints on this board, I have yet to see proof that the DCT transmission is defective, but I could be wrong.

Back when the shuddering issue was just rearing its ugly head, I read the posts on this forum and got paranoid so I took my car to the dealer. The mechanic there told me my clutch needed to be replaced. (This was back in 01/2012). I didn't believe him so I took the car somewhere else for a second opinion. The second dealer told me my clutch was not the problem...the transmission needed to be reprogrammed. The second dealer did it and "knock on wood" so far everything is fine. I never replaced my clutch even though the first dealer told me I needed to have that done. Sometimes I think part of the problem is that Ford did a poor job training the dealers about the DCT and how to properly diagnosis and maintain it. They also did a poor job in explaining (initially) what a DCT is.
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wow, I am not the only one. There is hope!
You can count me as one. Actually all 3 of my MK3 focii has the DCT and they are all problem free. The 12 SE has ~16K, the 12 Ti has ~11K, and the 13 SE has 400 miles.
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