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Old 06-05-2013, 08:49 AM   #1
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2001 Wagon won't start again

About a month ago I had an issue with my 2001 Focus Wagon not starting after it had been left at the airport for 6 weeks. After trying to jump start it and push start I finally towed it to a Tire Kingdom. The next day the mechanic checked the battery and the starter and they were fine but when you placed the key in the ignition, pushed in the clutch, and tried to start it it would not turn the motor over. The mechanic scanned the codes and didn't find any but it all of a sudden would start.
This morning it started like usual over the past month and I went to Walmart. Everything worked great. I just went to take a short trip and it won't start again. I tried a spare key that worked before and it wouldn't start the car either. The battery is new so that isn't the issue.
Anyone have any idea? I think it may have something to do with the security system (PATS).


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Old 06-05-2013, 09:16 AM   #2
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Does it crank or does it just do nothing? Could be the clutch safety switch.
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Old 06-05-2013, 09:32 AM   #3
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Yeap, that's what it was. I reach up underneath the dash, unplugged it and pulled it out. Pressed the switch a bunch of times, plugged it back it in without installing it then tried to start it and it did. I better order a new one before it happens to my wife.
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Old 07-01-2013, 09:23 AM   #4
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Well, I thought this issue was the clutch switch but now it's not starting again. I stopped at McDolalds, went inside for something to eat, returned and and now it doesn't start again. Replaced the new clutch switch with the old one (it still worked when I replaced it) and it still doesn't start so something else must be the problem.
I still think it is the PATS theft system because I can't push start it either. Battery I know is good as well. Any suggestions?
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:52 AM   #5
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When I turn the key to "on" I notice the trip/odometer only displays two line of dashes instead of the trip/odometer mileage that usually displays when I go to start it.
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When I turn the key to "on" I notice the trip/odometer only displays two line of dashes instead of the trip/odometer mileage that usually displays when I go to start it.
This is usually bad news regarding the PCM. You might try unplugging it and replugging it but more than likely you will need to replace.
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Old 07-01-2013, 11:02 AM   #7
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Where is the PCM at? I'm out of town and my repair manual is at home.
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It's located behind the dash. This pdf should help: http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/molurch/2011-12-09_211225_pcm.pdf
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The PCM is located behind the passenger side kick panel, (The thing with the X over the gas under the glovebox next to the door.)

Be sure to check all fuses and relays before condemning the PCM/ECU/ECM.
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PCMs rarely fail. To suggest a PCM is faulty becaue a car won't start without eliminating all other possibilities first is ridiculous. As CotyM suggests, iit's likely the PCM not getting adequate power or some sort of minor wiring fault.
How do you know the battery is good? Have you load tested it? New batteries fail. Check all connections at the battery for corrosion and tightness. Remove, clean and refit as a first diagnostic step.

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