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Old 05-31-2013, 12:35 PM   #11
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The wife let me have (lol) the car today to take it in for Ford updates to abs, etc. The tires on it are Falken Euro winter H5439 M&S 235/40 R18-95V, does anyone else have these ?? What is 95V????

95V stands for the weight and speed rating for the tires. I believe 95V would be 690KG max load per tire, and a max speed of 149MPH
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Old 05-31-2013, 01:13 PM   #12
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The LRR tires cost more, plus they are slightly harder with a higher tread wear rating. The ST tires are meant for maximum performance where as the Pilot Sports are a bit less aggressive, although they also don't work well when the temperatures drop below 40F.
I ran mine all winter, the only problems I had were on ice/snow, the temperature didn't degrade grip very much
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I ran mine all winter, the only problems I had were on ice/snow, the temperature didn't degrade grip very much
Sounds like you took the risk, although it is recommended not to drive on the summer tires in temperatures below 40F because the rubber compounds effectively become harder and don't grip well. In ice and snow especially they won't have the same traction you would have with a winter or all season compound.

There should have been some sort of warning label on the driver's door jamb of all factory equipped 18" wheel models with dire warnings about the original equipment tires being ultra high performance summer tires and not to use them below 40F, or something based on them no longer having adequate traction.

I've seen a few people still running them in the winter, however it would be more dangerous than changing the wheels.

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TIRE INFORMATION
Tires Goodyear Eagle F1
Size 235/40-18
Speed rating Y
Load rating 95
Usage Summer only
Wheels 18 in. x 8.0 in., 55 mm offset aluminum wheels
Your ST vehicle is equipped with low profile, high performance tires that
are designed to optimize the driving dynamics you expect in a ST
vehicle. These tires are not optimized for off-road or winter (snow or
cold weather) performance, and their ride, noise and wear characteristics
are different than non-performance tires. Also, because of their lower
profile, the tires are more susceptible to damage due to potholes and
rough roads.
The ST owners supplement specifically says the tires aren't good in cold weather, but the standard MK3 just says it's a sporty looking low profile tire, even though the Michelins also do not grip well at least according to a former co-worker who had a 12 Ti with handling package.
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Old 05-31-2013, 02:09 PM   #14
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95V is load index and speed rating.

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire_code

EDIT: MM beat me to it, but check out the link
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That sounds like a lot of BS. My Michelin's grip better than the all-seasons I had on my Mazda 3. Maybe you should try them??
Less lateral grip and longer stopping distances, you couldn't give them to me. All season tires are a compromise in almost every condition, these are even worse.

LRR tires are made for IJACs, I will never undersrand anyone who trades safety for 2 mpgs at best.
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Less lateral grip and longer stopping distances, you couldn't give them to me. All season tires are a compromise in almost every condition, these are even worse.

LRR tires are made for IJACs, I will never undersrand anyone who trades safety for 2 mpgs at best.
I'd like to see a test done on the skidpad, 0-60 and 60-0 with all-seasons and the "LRR" tires that proves what you say until then I'll continue to say BS.
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I would say that, while I'm sure there are better performing summer tires, the PS3's handled phenomenally well for the Focus. I drive my car hard enough for them to have only lasted 20k, and I loved every corner. Every. Single. Corner. Given the comparison to all of the then-available OEM tires, nothing beat them or could have been safer in warm and/or wet weather driving.
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I'd like to see a test done on the skidpad, 0-60 and 60-0 with all-seasons and the "LRR" tires that proves what you say until then I'll continue to say BS.
Sigh... let's try this again.

All Seasons, even "high performance" all seasons are a compromise. They are meant so you can drive in dry weather and sub freezing weather on the same set of tires. A set of summer tires and winter tires for their respective seasons is the only way I would ever travel in my own vehicle.

All season tires will have less grip than a summer tire in summer conditions and less grip than a winter tire in winter conditions. Less grip = longer stopping distances, less control for a high speed maneuver, less feedback from the road. If you would like to put them on your vehicle that's your decision. As far as I am concerned, it's not even a choice.
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Sigh... let's try this again.

All Seasons, even "high performance" all seasons are a compromise. They are meant so you can drive in dry weather and sub freezing weather on the same set of tires. A set of summer tires and winter tires for their respective seasons is the only way I would ever travel in my own vehicle.

All season tires will have less grip than a summer tire in summer conditions and less grip than a winter tire in winter conditions. Less grip = longer stopping distances, less control for a high speed maneuver, less feedback from the road. If you would like to put them on your vehicle that's your decision. As far as I am concerned, it's not even a choice.
I think we have a misunderstanding about what each of us is talking about. I think we're on the same page. Apologies.
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