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Old 05-07-2013, 02:04 PM   #91
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If you make it outside the MK3 section. You will see rwd v8 swaps going on all the time in 1st gen focus using a mustang engine trans and rear end. Mustangs rear end is quite narrow to fit larger wheels and fit perfect under a focus with the help of wheel adaptors. They make a bolt up kit to make this swap possible in the first gens. But most people like the couple builds currently going on in the forums just make everything from scratch minus the drivetrain.

If ford makes the mustang ecoboost 4 rwd all the componets will be there already. Just go down to your local dealership pick you up the trans, mounts and axles to turn the engine side ways then custom build the suspension wireing and stuff, like people are already doing today.

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Some FWD blocks will not interchange with RWD bell housings. Such is the case with the Lincoln Continentals 4.6 DOHC engine. So it's not always as easy as rotating the engine.


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The Mustang is and will remain RWD with the caviat that they are developing a new independent rear suspension for the 2015 MY to go with the new and carry over powertrain line up.

It's more likely that anyone wanting to swap in the 2.3 L EcoBoost engine for a Focus ST would take one from an FWD application, such as if it were to be used in a Focus RS, or possibly the MKC.



Technically it wouldn't unless the engine would fit longitudinally in the engine bay and the wheel bases were close enough to make the swap, with or without a custom rear end and drive shaft.

The MK1 models had a huge amount of space and could fit the 4.6 L cammer v8 under the hood and had a driveshaft tunnel already for rally homologation, which made it slightly easier than with the MK3.

The current platform is available with AWD, but it's the transverse on demand awd type of system used in the Escape.
The wheel base really isn't an issue as custom drive shafts and axles are easily obtained.

If the tunnel is there for AWD, the tunnel is there for RWD. Current electronic AWD systems still use a drive shaft to the rear.

The only issue might be the firewall clearance of the bell housing with the transmission in its new location.

I would be more interested in the drivetrain from the new Escape AWD finding its way into a focus.

In the end, it's really not worth it unless you're looking for something to do.
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Old 05-07-2013, 02:52 PM   #92
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If ford was smart and I think they have a little sense. They won't girly the mustang. The competion is too stiff for them to be dropping in a 4 cylinder regardless of the power. I don't see them doing any thing less than a V6. As for the the IFS although know to bave better control and ride over a live rear I still see for sticking with a live rear. They have gotten so good at taming it they are already out performing the camaro for example. A live axle is stronger too.

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I am eager to see a 4cyc mustang. I can imagine getting 300+ hp in a lighter chassis, quicker then the current v6 and get 30-35mpg.
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Old 05-07-2013, 03:08 PM   #93
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Some FWD blocks will not interchange with RWD bell housings. Such is the case with the Lincoln Continentals 4.6 DOHC engine. So it's not always as easy as rotating the engine.




The wheel base really isn't an issue as custom drive shafts and axles are easily obtained.

If the tunnel is there for AWD, the tunnel is there for RWD. Current electronic AWD systems still use a drive shaft to the rear.

The only issue might be the firewall clearance of the bell housing with the transmission in its new location.

I would be more interested in the drivetrain from the new Escape AWD finding its way into a focus.

In the end, it's really not worth it unless you're looking for something to do.
Yea finding a trans can be difficult but there is a guy building a rwd zetec on here now using a ranger trans for instance.

Most people build them for fun who wouldn't want a mustang that weighs 1200-1400 pounds less.

I you went to a show and had a mk3 with wheels, cai and some decals parked next to a fully build V8 focus which would you rather look at?

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Old 05-07-2013, 04:54 PM   #94
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Well in my case i owned a couple Mk1 zx3s years ago that i enjoyed, but I've always been a mustang guy. When i found out unexpectedly we were having a child last year i traded in my beautiful, garage kept, bolt on 05 GT with only 25k miles on it for my new 12 focus s.

I miss my GT. And reality is that 99% of the time little man rides in moms escape and almost never I'm my focus. I like the mk3 a lot, I think it's a world's better car than they used to be. I'm also bored to tears with it. I listed mine for sale a couple weeks ago and have been test driving everything from minis, to fiats, to challengers and mustangs and several in between. I have to say on the used market for my money right now, I would hands down buy the 3.7 mustang if my car was sold. It's a great driving car with the 6 speed, with impressive performance and gas mileage to boot. Although i do plan on driving the genesis and the gti asap.

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I'm supposed to test drive a base ST this weekend, we'll see if I can get a good deal on a trade.

FWIW, I thought this was MK3 specific, since I'm discussing what to replace a MK3 focus with, especially how it's only the MK3 that has the MFT and this transmission.
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I'm supposed to test drive a base ST this weekend, we'll see if I can get a good deal on a trade.

FWIW, I thought this was MK3 specific, since I'm discussing what to replace a MK3 focus with, especially how it's only the MK3 that has the MFT and this transmission.
Since you're asking about buying other cars it would seem to make more sense that it's not actually MK3 related, as you were talking about getting rid of the car you have for car x, where car X could be anything.
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Old 05-08-2013, 08:36 PM   #98
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I already replaced my Focus-with a 2013 Fusion!!!lol Nothing like having a 1.6 liter EcoBoost engine with the 6-spd manual tranny,truly the best of both worlds!!! 1700 miles and counting!
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Funny you should ask . . .

Just replaced our '03 ZTW wagon last week!
Wanted to stay with a reliable manual trans, wagon, and that's getting to be a rare combo.
Bought a nice used Outback. Happy with it so far, but will be sad to sell the ZTW.
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When the time comes, I'll look for something RWD.

So far the S2000 is at the top of my short list.
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