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Old 04-27-2013, 09:05 PM   #11
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Why not consider the Fiesta? (Note: hatchback only. The Fiesta sedan is FUGLY.)
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:48 PM   #12
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Wrong. Upper trim levels got Select-Shift DCT's, unless they got the manual tranny.
Wrong. Actually you are right about the upper trim levels getting the select shift option, but all the MK3 automatics are DCTs/powershift. The select shift is just the rocker on the gear selector for manual control. Just take a look at the Focus' spec page: http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/specifications/.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:11 AM   #13
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ever test drove a mustang V6? do it stick or auto itll change your mind.
I'd have to second this. You;ll also find insurance may be cheaper, mine dropped a little over 100 every 6 mos over a focus.
If you need reliable transport and need to save money, look elsewhere also and look at all aspects including insurance.
Don't come to a ford focus site and expect an honest answer...
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:54 AM   #14
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Like anything else in life, you will hear more complaints than testimonials on any given product. When you look at the volume of sales for the Focus, if the problem were that widespread it would be all over the news. The reality is that all products are imperfect and have some level of defects. At least in the case of the Focus, the resolution to this particular one has been well documented.

The MFT problems, for me anyway, only happen when I have a USB Flash drive connected. Things with the system get a little sketchy when a USB drive is plugged in. It does stabilize but there is definitely something buggy when it is accessing a USB device. Otherwise, I love the MFT system and don't find it difficult to use at all.

The bottom line is that if you test drive the vehicle and don't experience the shifting that others have complained about, it is very unlikely that you will have any problems. I would suggest testing the vehicle starting on an incline and doing a rolling start. This should reveal any weirdness with the transmission.
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The DCT and MFT issues have been all over car related news and even new reviews of the Focus' DCT haven't been favorable so imagine if a car rag had a few months with a DCT.

If you can drive a stick then get the 5 speed and save yourself from a solid possibility the DCT will have some issues;this Forum gave me enough insight to avoid the DCT and that was a year ago.
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The DCT and MFT issues have been all over car related news and even new reviews of the Focus' DCT haven't been favorable so imagine if a car rag had a few months with a DCT.

If you can drive a stick then get the 5 speed and save yourself from a solid possibility the DCT will have some issues;this Forum gave me enough insight to avoid the DCT and that was a year ago.
The same thing can be said for all the reviews on the first round of vehicles with CVT transmissions. It is more about expectations than problems in both cases. Anytime something is different, it is perceived as a negative. In the end, it usually is not a negative. The DCT does not behave exactly like a traditional auto or a traditional manual. It has behavior related to both. How many of these people have been stranded on the side of the road? I haven't heard of any. There may be one or two, but mostly it is people complaining about behavior not failure.

I am a 22 year IT veteran, I have been troubleshooting the MFT problems. The issues (for me) only occur when a USB flash drive is plugged in. Unplug the drive and everything performs as expected. This does not mean there aren't other issues or missing features, only that this is the only time system behaves in a way that could be considered failing. It is generally temporary and appears to be a performance issue with accessing and indexing the USB drive. It creates a performance hit on both the MFT and NAV systems. This is far more annoying to me than anything related to the DCT.

Maybe I am just lucky!
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No,the DCTs issues have kept more than a few members going back and forth to the dealership more than they should be going which might not be as bad as a failure but it's still pretty bad when it's not working as intended. I've been on many car forums for the last 15 years and I've never seen so many threads concerning one part of a car and it's issues and that includes new ones. The DCT is underbaked for this pricepoint and needed a little more time to work out the bugs.

I've driven the DCT in the new EVO and it behaves nothing like the Ford's and they aren't having the issues the Focus has had.
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overall reliability will not likely be an issue. as long as you avoid the quirky DCT and myford touch. I researched it before I bought the 2012 SE and "built up" with sport package and winter package. we avoided the MyFord Touch ( spent about same $ on a sunroof) and avoided DCT with 5 spd. spent $ on leather seats. ( Tuscany red/ black looks awesome & get lots of compliments). the DCT is reliable, just quirky and I believe Ford has updated the electronics to make it better. even a 2012 can be flashed to update it.

the SE no longer comes with the Fog lamps though. disappointing for that trim. may have to go Titanium since SEL is no longer offered in 2013.
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A lot of good replies here - Thanks!

The reason I haven't really looked into another car is purely because I already have had a focus and loved it completely. Not one single complaint. I've driven a few other cars, but I'm worried that I'll find something I really don't like about it after driving it for a while. For one example, we rented a car to drive to Virginia so we'd get better gas mileage. I don't remember what kind of car it was, but MAN was it nice. I loved it, I kind of wished I had it. But, after driving it for a while, I noticed that the ratio of distance between me, pedals, and steering wheel were awful and no combination of adjustment would fix it. Also, when I would try to merge, the car was such that if I looked right, I couldn't actually see crap behind me on that side. Both things I wouldn't have noticed, in, say, a test drive - I had to really drive it for a while.

And a stick.... I thought about it, but no. I do not like driving them, and especially because I live in the city with considerable stop and go on my way to and from work.

I wouldn't be too opposed to others, but the focuses in the family have never had problems, save one single time, beyond normal wear issues. Again bringing me to the DCT... I realize that everything has its 'kinks' to work out. But I don't want a car that I might have to bring to a dealership or a shop over and over, and be constantly worrying about. I'll stick to the regular transmission... I don't like what I've heard about it much at all, and if I'm buying a car I shouldn't have to wait for it to 'work out kinks.' It should be good to go, especially at only 1 year old. I'm not going to upgrade my 13 year old car with no mechanical issues to a car that DOES have issues.

My experience with the Focus has been great, so I thought I'd get another, is what it comes down to. A different car would need to be in the same price range - 13K or less. 4 door, automatic. Non-crappy gas mileage. But in all honesty if I can avoid the problems with the Focus by simply not getting the DCT, then I'll likely get another one.

And thanks for the info on the MFT! It doesn't sound TOO bad. I would take it if it came with it, but I wouldn't lament if it didn't. I appreciate the brochure that was posted that spells things out a bit. I'll definitely do a test drive of whatever I look at to get a feel for the transmission, either way - Can't be too safe, right?
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You know, now that I'm looking at said brochure...

It says that the only other option on the Focus besides the DCT is a 5 speed manual. Well that's a bit of a downer, I don't really care for manuals. Hmmm... What to do.
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