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Old 04-26-2013, 10:16 AM   #11
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If you're "lucky" enough to have a friend like that, then by all means use this method. Personally, I would just pick up an Inline Spark Tester.

You're either not getting spark, not getting fuel, or no compression. Check for spark using either the dumb friend method or an inline spark tester. Check for fuel by cranking the engine over a couple times, then pull the plugs out and see if they look wet or smell like fuel. If you're getting fuel and getting spark, do a compression test.
hahaha I will definitely be referring to this as "the dumb friend method" from now on
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Old 04-26-2013, 11:06 AM   #12
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Plugs are also new. Replaced them in December right before my car went into hibernation, but I'll check them again. Still, car ran smooth as butter for 15 minutes last night and then I shut it off. Then...nothing. Weirdness. All electronics (seems) to be functioning and its turning over. Maybe I need to replace some fuses, or didn't squirt enough starter fluid in? The one bright part is last night I'd let it roll into the road so I could get some cables on it and this morning my neighbors helped me push it back in the driveway; so its not in immediate danger anymore.

The one weird bit is last night I got a flash of lights across the dashboard, the main two (speedo and tach) lit up barely there hint-of-green (but then again, they're supposed to be indigo green) and then were dark again, and the tach went up to 7K even though the car wasn't starting. I assumed it was because the battery was almost dead. Not sure if that means anything or not. I'll figure it out. Right now I'm checking fuses and on the phone with my Dad in Hong Kong trying to remote-diagnose it.
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Old 04-26-2013, 04:18 PM   #13
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Took all my plugs out and checked them and, behind them being wet, I'm going to assume the clear liquid = gas (hard to smell to be honest since my smeller isn't so good, but it didn't taste like water). Also I definitely hear the fuel pump coming on.

Here's one of my plugs:

So I'm going to assume its something spark? Would a code help? Need to get my hands on a thing-a-na-bob to pull a code.
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Old 04-26-2013, 05:53 PM   #14
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Coil pack? Just guessing? lol Make sure your wires are plugged in right and not mixed up and make sure they are snug and secure on both ends. And make sure all electrical wires are snug and plugged in and triple check all your fuses. You said you could hear your fuel pump kick on. Try flippin the fuel cut off switch just to make sure, you never know. Flooded? Idk... hold your gas petal to the floor while trying to crank it. (I read that in my owners manual... dunno if it works... could make it worse so do at your own risk) I'm sure you would still be getting compression... hell it ran for 15 minutes when you cranked it up last time.

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Turn key till idiot lights come on and listen carefully for the 2 second spin-up of the fuel pump in tank. Get down under edge of car if necessary. I've seen cars sit for awhile, start up after and run fine, and pump die when turned off, in fact it happened to me. If no noise then pump died from sitting, it happens, the ethanol component of the fuel does it.

I ran mine for like 15 minutes and went in house to clean up for test drive, came back out and nothing. Had to change pump. Disassembled old pump, it was corroded garbage inside.
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Fuel pump is working. Also took plugs out and they are getting fuel. Seems like a spark (or lack of) issue.
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Fuel pump is working. Also took plugs out and they are getting fuel. Seems like a spark (or lack of) issue.
I'd try a different coil pack.
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I'd get the plugs good and dry and clean with compressed air and maybe some kind of solvent. Then I'd try turning over the engine a bit in clear flood mode (WOT) and then letting off to see if it wants to catch. Maybe pull the fuel pump fuse and crank it for awhile in an attempt to clear it out, the fact that you pulled out plugs soaking wet just makes me think it's over-fueling. You might blow some air into the cylinders also while the plugs are out, call it extra insurance.

How long is "several months" and how much fuel is in there?
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Well I did (rather foolishly in hind-sight) pump it slightly more than Ron Jeremy in an effort to get it started last night; so that explains the wetness of the plugs. Car was down for a water pump which got replaced in early December, car ran then...unless you count the 15 minutes last night.

...and it had about tank in it last night. I added another tank of fresh gas today so its got tank today. I can hear the fuel pump so it seems to be working. I am starting to think its a spark issue. Is there a fuse that controls the coil or a fuse that controls the ECU?
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I would be very careful about letting too much fuel get into the cylinders. There have been several documented cases of SVT's backfiring after being flooded and destroying the intake manifold.
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