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Old 04-21-2013, 12:52 PM   #51
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The a kit uses a 70mm upper idler pulley, the b kit uses a 60mm pulley. They also have different mounting locations on the cylinder head. I would think that if the wrong kit was used there would be too much tension on that belt.

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Old 04-21-2013, 04:49 PM   #52
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The a kit uses a 70mm upper idler pulley, the b kit uses a 60mm pulley. They also have different mounting locations on the cylinder head. I would think that if the wrong kit was used there would be too much tension on that belt.

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Did you even bother to check the earlier posts in this thread?

I checked ALL of the parts I put on the car for part number matches, which I posted pictures of on page 3. I also measured the parts vs. stock for giggles as well before installation.

The timing idler pulley that came in the kit was Gates T42036 which is a 60mm idler pulley. The extra pulley in the kit (for Escorts) was never opened.

I wouldn't have made this thread if I put the wrong parts on the car, then it would be completely my mistake.
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Old 04-21-2013, 05:19 PM   #53
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Sorry it just there me off when I saw the part numbers. I always thought the "a" kits came with a bigger idler pulley. I just did my timing belt a few weeks ago with a gates kit as well. And at one point I was doing the same kind of research for a motor I did a head swap in.

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Old 04-21-2013, 05:32 PM   #54
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i was changing the drive belt on my svt today, figured it would be easier to go in from the top...while i was in there i took off the upper timing cover to have a look at the condition of the belt. i noticed the t-belt tensioner alignment pointer was about a half inch lower than where it should be. it drives fine and havent had an issue in the 50,000+ km that ive put on the motor since i did t-belt swap....seems a little weird that the tensioner would have backed off that much since then, i know it was put together right and torqued correctly cause i did it myself a few years back and followed the install instructions to the letter....after reading this im freaked right the F out!! i loosened the bolt and re-set the tension...gonna check it again in a few weeks! hopefully no "boom" in my future(fingers crossed)
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i was changing the drive belt on my svt today, figured it would be easier to go in from the top...while i was in there i took off the upper timing cover to have a look at the condition of the belt. i noticed the t-belt tensioner alignment pointer was about a half inch lower than where it should be. it drives fine and havent had an issue in the 50,000+ km that ive put on the motor since i did t-belt swap....seems a little weird that the tensioner would have backed off that much since then, i know it was put together right and torqued correctly cause i did it myself a few years back and followed the install instructions to the letter....after reading this im freaked right the F out!! i loosened the bolt and re-set the tension...gonna check it again in a few weeks! hopefully no "boom" in my future(fingers crossed)
I didn't see mentioned anywhere, was this a Gates tensioner?
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yeah its a gates!!
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i was changing the drive belt on my svt today, figured it would be easier to go in from the top...while i was in there i took off the upper timing cover to have a look at the condition of the belt. i noticed the t-belt tensioner alignment pointer was about a half inch lower than where it should be. it drives fine and havent had an issue in the 50,000+ km that ive put on the motor since i did t-belt swap....seems a little weird that the tensioner would have backed off that much since then, i know it was put together right and torqued correctly cause i did it myself a few years back and followed the install instructions to the letter....after reading this im freaked right the F out!! i loosened the bolt and re-set the tension...gonna check it again in a few weeks! hopefully no "boom" in my future(fingers crossed)
if you read back, another member mentioned that this something with the design of the tensioner, that the mark doesn't line up anymore after a few rotations, but that it's still tensioned correctly....and that if you make it line up again, you'll over-tension it.
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i loosened the bolt, removing all the tension and then re-tensioned it...should be alright...i hope
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if you read back, another member mentioned that this something with the design of the tensioner, that the mark doesn't line up anymore after a few rotations, but that it's still tensioned correctly....and that if you make it line up again, you'll over-tension it.
This ^^^

As long as you released the tensioner and then retensioned the belt with it, I don't see a problem. I would recommend observing the tensioner with the upper timing cover off to see how it reacts when you have the car running. Every car is somewhat unique in this regard even though it is within a small range of variance.

No updates on my end. I went to my local dealer just to see how available valves were in case the machine shop somehow couldn't get any... but they're easily available, given one days notice. Dealer wanted nearly $600 for a full set... and I'm not surprised.

I am curious if anyone on here has rebuilt using DNJ valves on RockAuto and the quality of the product.
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i loosened the bolt, removing all the tension and then re-tensioned it...should be alright...i hope
No, do *not* completely release tension on an already mounted and run belt...
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