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Old 04-16-2013, 08:09 PM   #1
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2000 Wagon SE will not start, no click, but have power accesories

A week after I sold my sister my wagon, it left her stranded, and now it is back in my driveway.

Never had a similar problem with this car, and am guessing either the neutral safety switch, or starter. It is an automatic.

Problem: car has power accessories, battery is good (less than a year old, along with alternator, and brand new battery harness), but when you go to crank the car........NOTHING.

The red led above the flasher flashes until you go to crank, then it stops flashing, so it looks like that is not the problem (what ever the security system is called that does that).

No clicking from the starter, so..... is there a way to bypass the neutral safety switch so eliminate that potential problem before I pull the starter?

Really would appreciate the help to get this back in service for my sister.

thanks in advance


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Old 04-16-2013, 08:27 PM   #2
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Old 04-16-2013, 11:32 PM   #3
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I'd replace the starter relay as a simple first diagnostic test before you start messing with the starter or neutral safety switch.
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Old 04-17-2013, 03:58 AM   #4
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What engine do you have? If its a sohc try pulling the plugs and see if any are damaged. Ie: smashed. See if you can crank the engine by hand.

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Old 04-17-2013, 04:30 AM   #5
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I'd try a different battery.........
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:26 AM   #6
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Is she using the wrong key? Ford keys have chips in the key, so if you use an aftermarket key that has no chip or has not been programmed to the car- that's your problem. Yes, the flashing lock symbol is trying to tell you that the PATS system is activated, if it was not the PATS then you wouldn't see the flashing light. PATS= passive anti-theft system.

I know this is your sister, but I have driven all the way to a house to find out that the girl who called me simply didn't have the car completely in P. She didn't tell me on the phone that she couldn't pull the key out.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:30 AM   #7
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put it in neutral and see if it starts? I won't lie, I don't have experience with a focus neutral safety switch. I know older jeeps will have a problem with the switch sometimes and putting it in neutral works.

Not that it really, helps. It's just a suggestion.
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Old 04-17-2013, 09:19 AM   #8
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That's true could be the wrong key, a unprogrammed key will turn on the fuel pump but that's it.

To go with what mike said, it won't let you take it out of park is the batter is dead. So that's a good way to see if its the battery or not.

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Old 04-17-2013, 10:24 AM   #9
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Your problem may be in the linkage in the steering column between the ingition key tumbler and the starter switch. However there is one thing that makes me doubt my diagnosis, your problem seemed to happen over night.

On my daughters 2008 it happened slowly. It would take multiple times turning the key to get the starter to kick in and kept getting worse over time.

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=309714

The above link tells you about our problem on the 2008. I don't know if your steering column linkage is anything like your 2000.

Good luck.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:58 PM   #10
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Thanks guys.

It is a DOHC car. I tried putting it in park several times, tried starting it in neutral, ect and no change :(

Where is the starter relay located? How often do these go bad? Any way to test one?

Key is the original ford key when purchased, so unless the chip is bad, should be a good key as it got her to the library where she got stranded.

Looks like the starter is not going to be a fun job, anyone know of a link to a how-to that could speed it up for me?

thanks again all
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